Rogue/Ninja - Could we please get Hide changed or overhauled?

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Originally Posted by pls_no

Ah, well I was unaware of the eye or maybe I'm just not paying attention, it just always seemed random on what could see me in dungeons and what couldn't. I'll keep an eye out, but future clarification such as an active help window would be nice for those unaware.

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If I recall correctly, all dungeon mobs are detector mobs. So you always just wait for your tank to pull, run up, Hide in plain sight, and then open up on them. The ones that do anything to the whole party (be it an AoE, debuff, or knockback) just make it all the harder to reach them, Hide, and Trick/Sneak attack in time before being automatically entered into combat.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

If I recall correctly, all dungeon mobs are detector mobs. So you always just wait for your tank to pull, run up, Hide in plain sight, and then open up on them. The ones that do anything to the whole party (be it an AoE, debuff, or knockback) just make it all the harder to reach them, Hide, and Trick/Sneak attack in time before being automatically entered into combat.

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Boss aggro knocks you out of stealth, too.

The matter of fact is, ther stealth aspect really seems like an afterthoguht at this point. You use it in PvP and that's about it. And it's 2-sided for that because your team can't see you when you're stealthed, which is equally just as infuriating since they tend to initiate their burst without anyone else (me) to follow up :x

At the very least make sneak attack not share timer with trick attack. It'll be useless on bosses, but atleast it'll be a nice burst/opener on mobs and dungeons.

I can understand the movement reduction requirement, and the only real use it has til 22 is just to serve as a way to do storyline. But it annoys me that i can't use it on boss, as soon as tank aggro's it drops, super annoying until i can get the ninjutsu for stealth. The skill really sucks, the only use it has is sneaking by the level 50 hunts that attack anyone in the noob zones... That is more annoying than a useless skill

If you want speedy stealth you can always go Sprint > Hide.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

If you want speedy stealth you can always go Sprint > Hide.

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Still a shame you can't use the opposite order, nor Invig or buff up from stealth.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Still a shame you can't use the opposite order, nor Invig or buff up from stealth.

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Yeah the skill in that sense is complete shit. Just like Mug is complete shit.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Yeah the skill in that sense is complete shit. Just like Mug is complete shit.

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Which part the original that i saw proc once or the irrelevant lifesteal every minute and a half ?

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Originally Posted by garret_hawke

Which part the original that i saw proc once or the irrelevant lifesteal every minute and a half ?

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The original part. I don't really understand the venom effect either. I mean as a longtime FF fan Mug should be stealing stuff and could help gather materials but eh only seen it proc twice in all my time with the game.

Might as well just change the effect of viper to make you run faster in Hide or something.
The heal from Mug is pathetic, lol. I wouldn't miss it one bit.