Crafting and signing

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

-Seller's name listed on crafted items - can have people harass you over listed prices

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Does this actually happen? It's never happened to me before, but I've always been a little paranoid about it. I really don't like signatures for that reason, and I doubt anyone actually pays attention to the signatures on the equipment someone is using. I've always thought it was silly to have an anonymous retainer system for selling goods, but then slap the crafter's name down on everything and show it on the MB listings.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

If the item you sell is actually made by you. I re-sold quite a few items made by someone else because I simply didn't need them in the rather large quantity they sold them at. It was still their name that showed up, not mine.

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That's another problem with it, though. I feel weird re-selling an item that has another crafter's name on it if I purchased more than I needed. ;_; And you could potentially abuse it I guess, but I doubt anyone would take the time.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

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I've never had an issue with most of these things, and they seem more like design choices you personally disagree with rather than actual faults. Even in MMORPGs with listing fees, people undercut significantly and overnight you can see the value of an item drop by over 50%, the only solution would be to have a really heavy fee and that would be problem of its own. I do agree with the buy order suggestion though, I have to wonder why we don't have that. Would be nice both to buy and sell items instantly for the price people are willing to actually pay. As for saying it would always be worse, I'm simply stating that it isn't the most primitive thing out there, or even close.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

And, uh...if I couldn't see the signature on the crafted item, I'd like to have it removed entirely when it goes over the MB >_> I'm the kind of buyer who'd rather shell out a few more gil than wear something that has the name on it I do not like for one reason or the other.

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I'm a big foggy on the details since it has been ages, but I believe in XI, names disappeared once they were listed on the auction house. So if you wanted to wear something with a name, you had to do a personal trade.

I get that some people like seeing their name around the city, but it would be nice to also have the option to remove the names entirely.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

-Seller's Crafter's name listed on crafted items - can have people who don't know better harass you over listed prices of items you don't sell at the moment

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I fixed it a bit

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Originally Posted by Felis

I fixed it a bit

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haha, thanks :) I wasn't thinking clearly on that part.


But to answer the other two above, I personally have never been contacted by anyone negatively, but I have seen it mentioned here before. I did actually have a kind soul track me down once to let me know that I had listed an item for 5g instead of about 20k, so that was nice ;)

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Originally Posted by Aethaeryn

Does this actually happen? It's never happened to me before, but I've always been a little paranoid about it. I really don't like signatures for that reason, and I doubt anyone actually pays attention to the signatures on the equipment someone is using. I've always thought it was silly to have an anonymous retainer system for selling goods, but then slap the crafter's name down on everything and show it on the MB listings.

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It happens, and a lot, if you are in a minimally organized crafting LS/group you will see how its basically a daily topic about X or Y guy market behavior, and many go as far as "talking them into reason" when it comes to pricing, several times i`ve been either nicely suggested to change my market behavior or harassed, and sometimes i`ve felt the need to do it to others too (good thing im a good guy!) just because sometimes the market board is ughghhajsdhasdkjas...

Anyway, back to the original topic, I suspect that what the OP saw came from this:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...98c204c6199e5a

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Originally Posted by Patch 3.0 Notes

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...png?1448047289 [2.0] The message "Obtaining Signature" will now be displayed when an item's signature is unable to be read.

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Though it wasn't clear from that note, apparently if a crafter moves to another server, or someone with crafted items in their inventory moves to another server, the server with the items ends up not having a record of the crafter's name (since they're on a different server), so all those items end up with that default message where the name would go. I'm not sure if there are other reasons as well for the system being unable to display the proper name, and end up showing "Obtaining Signature" instead.

I've also heard that at least on some servers, players have decided to joke around with that message and create a character actually named "Obtaining Signature" (who may or may not end up crafting stuff, which makes that name on crafted items a bit ambiguous if they do).

I personally kinda enjoyed XI's version of the market board. Completely blind, you saw what the price was selling for and made a bid if it matched one that someone posted then congrats, if not then you try again. Sure there was undercutting I am sure but you could never really tell. I have only gotten one angry tell but that was because I posted a crafted primal weapon for I think it was 2mil when the only one up there was at 7mil.