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uhm you are right with alex i lately switched from whm to sch for farming, cause our ast soloheals - so i never have to leave clearic at all – therefore sch > whm. but the topic was "speedrun with 4 people" so whm definitly outdamages sch here with his aoe bombs :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Pence
so i would go with whm – aero/holy/assize is just great for trash mobs if you havent to cancel cleric that much.
I'd go WHM > SCH > AST, although I have to say AST may go way up in that rating if the right cards are drawn.
The difference between healer damage past 52 isn't THAT big, but keeping your aoe DPS classes' dmg boosted all the time can end up being a much, much greater asset than that 300 potency attack every one and a half minute ;)
But, as anything with AST, it ends up being based on luck :D
If you want raw burst DPS its definitely WHM for me, just Regen M2 Asylum CS and go. Also a Bene while you just spam holy <3
AST is imo next up as you can use cards and Gravity stuff down and if need more DPS time just CO and keep doing your stuff.
SCH I would put last due to DoTs and "single target only" and if you unlucky the DPS single target your dotted mob before you have them up/can Bane.
Just my PoV though ^^
I use AST in most cases for Dungeons... probably because its my worst of the 3 heals and I rarely use in raids :p
AST on 50 is worst though either way as it has no AoE skill >.>
As you mentioned speed clearing, WHM definitely wins out of the three. Aero III, Holy and Assize are all amazing spells.
If you are speed running a WHM is better simply for clearing trash and adds on bosses far more capable of attacking multiple targets at once and holy as an AoE attack + stun is still OP to the point of it being nerfed twice and still being really effective along with at lvl 60 having two more AoE attacks to play with including the insanely good Assize. This is just going by basics though there are always variances with skill but in 4 man speed runs it really depends on a lot of AoE which WHM adds to so it edges it.
Max Potency on Aoe Dots:
WHM:
Aero 3
320 over 24 seconds
SCH
Shadow Flare
250 over 30
By the time I set up dots as a sch, 3.5 holy's have already went off. (Not including presence of mind or a whm that builds spell build)
In the long run It's definitely a sch that will out aoe a whm with the combine power of Shadow Flare + dots + Blizzard Three. Not to mention when the whm runs out of mana.
In terms of a speed run though where everyone is equipped to do a lot of damage, a whm would win over a sch because of the less time needed to set up.
I know this doesn't apply to me as much cos' I'm tank vet and main, but for 4 man content, I prefer AST/SCH. True AST isn't the best with DPS but it's SpS stance, buffs and lightspeed...hard to go wrong.
Ah, I was waiting for OP to make a Straw Poll :\
I'd say that SCH is the better solo-heal job. That said, WHM is definitely fun and quite fluid with its skills.
Ast is shit in 4-man content compared to Whm if you want speed up the dungeon.
Gravity is far less efficient/easier than Holy.
Assize is so great.
Pom destroys light speed
Hots are easier.
And whm got aero 3
Stone III is better than Malefic II.
Speed clearing, even solo healing, WHM is the best choice. Burst DPS, and MP is hardly an issue because of the amount restored with Assize used on cooldown.