AS4 downed within 4 days in china

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Originally Posted by Mature

Regardless of them having the videos and the clear in you tube doesn't mean they had the upper hand. If that was the case everyone would of cleared AS4 in no time.

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These players have been clearing Savage since November on JP servers, so this is basically months of practice coming into fruition. It's not as if they just went in Savage first time ever, watched a few vids, then knocked it out in 4 days. That's why I mentioned the power of hindsight and previous experience being a factor.

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This is not just your average AS4 clear, this is THE clear.

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No, the clear would be the one that was World First, followed by Lucrezia's (largely on account of providing a comparatively easier way for others to clear). You can't compare a team that's been clearing for months already to that of those who were doing it during early progression.

Really impressive, most of the DF and PF ppl ive seen cant even do those numbers with 210.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

These players have been clearing Savage since November on JP servers, so this is basically months of practice coming into fruition. It's not as if they just went in Savage first time ever, watched a few vids, then knocked it out in 4 days. That's why I mentioned the power of hindsight and previous experience being a factor.

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I mean, I haven't cleared A4S so it's not like I can say too much.. But the fact they've already been clearing for a while does diminish "down within 4 days" accomplishment.

Hmm, if that is true and they done this before on the JP servers, I can't consider it impressed cause they already got the situation down beforehand. I mean it took weeks in JP/NA servers, but days in China? That sounds weird. Well it will impressed ppl for those who didn't know that they already done it before. That's my take.

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Originally Posted by Osmond

Hmm, if that is true and they done this before on the JP servers, I can't consider it impressed cause they already got the situation down beforehand. I mean it took weeks in JP/NA servers, but days in China? That sounds weird. Well it will impressed ppl for those who didn't know that they already done it before. That's my take.

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what's truly impressive in the 4 days time frame is that they basically had no gear. It tooks weeks of gearing for world first when the chinese just did it with the bare minimum

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

what's truly impressive in the 4 days time frame is that they basically had no gear. It tooks weeks of gearing for world first when the chinese just did it with the bare minimum

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Doesn't take long to get full alexander sets, also do Thor Ex for weps. But i suspect the servers might of had transfer options.

They were 190ilvl, thats what impressive. No thordan weapons. Go do it yourself before you start talking them down, pls.

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

Doesn't take long to get full alexander sets, also do Thor Ex for weps. But i suspect the servers might of had transfer options.

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Chinese server doesn't have Thordan Ex and only had 2 weeks of Alexander normal mode. They have the same conditions as we had back in August when they first released alexander savage (except they have experience due to clearing it for months on JP servers. I'm talking gear wise here)

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Originally Posted by Iamsomeone

They were 190ilvl, thats what impressive. No thordan weapons. Go do it yourself before you start talking them down, pls.

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No-one's even "talking them down", but simply putting their clear into perspective. Having had months of experience clearing the fight already, they took the maximum DPS composition and underwent a flawless execution of a scripted dance. Impressive, yes, but not an indication of 'these guys are so good they learnt and cleared Savage first time in 4 days', as others are mistakenly thinking.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Chinese server doesn't have Thordan Ex and only had 2 weeks of Alexander normal mode. They have the same conditions as we had back in August when they first released alexander savage (except they have experience due to clearing it for months on JP servers. I'm talking gear wise here)

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They had NM for 6 weeks before Savage, which is how they were able to hit Savage in full i190.

when doing that cheese strat i just can't get over how boring the fight looks even though its kind of impressive in 190 but its still hard to watch