IS WAR as hard as it seems?

Warrior is currently the easiest Tank class to play in all respects. Xeno means very well and is greatly worth respecting, but he truly is not the best at making guides.

The best way to learn the job is to just go play it. Leveling is easier than ever these days. Go ham on dungeons on the way up and you'll get a good idea of the way things work.

I agree with Brian, Warrior probably has the widest skill floor / skill ceiling jump. You can get by without much effort but if you want to be a contributing member of a team you'll have to learn how to plan your actions several gcds in advance. However, that being said, once you get in the groove, Warrior is one of the most intuitive classes in the game to play. Everything in their toolkit has a purpose and synergizes with something else. You don't wind up with contradictory skills in your employ *ahem Dark knight*

War is easy *because* of how well designed it is. The only remotely complicated part of the job is triple cleave/decimate and managing when to use vengeance/ri for stacks or for mitigation. It most certainly is not as difficult as Drk.

Easy to learn, could take a lifetime to master :)

The most useful things you could pull from Xeno's guides and other WAR faqs is the synergy of abilities. As you start to understand how off-GCD abilities benefit each other (Vengeance + Berserk + Bloodbath, Thrill of Battle + Convalescence, stacking Berserk + Internal Release + Storm's Eye before using Fell Cleave), you'll get a well-rounded view of what makes the Job different.

After that, it's a matter of feeling out the "flow" of a fight, and that comes with time and practice. With that, you'll start to know ahead of time, as the fight proceeds, whether to use Storm's Eye for extra slashing damage, Storm's Path for mitigation, or Butcher's Block for aggro + damage. For most fights below Alexander Savage, you mostly just rotate between the combos, benefitting from all.

Well i defiantly dont plan to savage period let alone on WAR, that being said i just hit 30 and it made a world of difference and i am actually starting to enjoy the job now, so thanks guys ill be sticking with it to see what happens =P im slightly less scared now, i think it was just partially i am used to taking so little damage on pld and not always being so low on TP so i was feeling like a bad lol

War can get a little TP starved if too much Overpower. For best results give it 2-3 overpowers, get up Maim buff, then 2 or 3 overpowers if needed at most before going to single-target rotation. If you find you need more Overpower, supplement a flash here and there to use up MP instead, it will give your TP a break for a few seconds. Also if you use Berserk you will need less Overpowers. (Berserk+Internal Release+bloodbath = amazing). Also make sure to position properly, I've seen newer mrd/wars who will spam Overpower but not realize it's a conal shape and end up missing enemies that are behind/to the side.

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Originally Posted by SerDakota

..., i think it was just partially i am used to taking so little damage on pld and not always being so low on TP so i was feeling like a bad lol

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I'm sure you already know but for anyone else reading, just keep in mind that WAR and PLD have the same effective HP in tank stance and so being squishier is just a perception thing. PLD's body responds better to incoming heals heals ( I think it reacts 5% better than WAR does) but war makes up the 5% with self heals.

Also it gets real fun on WAR where you can use Berzerk+Bloodbath on one pack and then Convelescence+Unchained on the next. There's so much hate with overpower spam while buffed, and alternating this way makes it seem like you've always got something for the next pull.

Just my opinion.

I have all tanks @ 60. Played all of em, main PLD/WAR currently.

Alot of people seem to say/think warrior is such a hard class to play.
In all honesty, i would say its one of the easier classes to play right now.

Aggro wise. Even if you're geared lower you will not have a problem(To a degree obviously)
DMG Wise, Get your rotations down and you'll be up there with the DPS(I find myself often out DPS 3/4 of my party members)
Staying alive? Honestly.. i was doing a 60 dungeon my entire PT wiped on the last boss at like 35-40%

I managed to solo it, Was quite fun to be honest. Would not been able to do that as a DRK or a PLD most likely.
And there is so much i could improve on my war(Playstyle)
Even on big pulls Triple decimate in combination with bloodbath is epicly satisfying.

In the end, we all have our opinions. And i would say, WAR is not any harder than any other the other tank classes.

Its an amazing and fun class, Hardest out there? I wouldn't agree with that. but what class is truely hard to play? It all comes down to figuring out how your skills work and knowing when to use what to get the most out of your class.

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Originally Posted by SerDakota

Well i defiantly dont plan to savage period let alone on WAR, that being said i just hit 30 and it made a world of difference and i am actually starting to enjoy the job now, so thanks guys ill be sticking with it to see what happens =P im slightly less scared now, i think it was just partially i am used to taking so little damage on pld and not always being so low on TP so i was feeling like a bad lol

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From a healer's standpoint, WAR can seem squishier simply because their hp will tend to yoyo a bit more than PLD/DRK. Defiance offers no damage reduction like Shield Oath and Grit do, but instead offers an increase in HP pool and the effectiveness of healing. All three tank classes are comparable in effective hit points, though. I have to admit there's a few big pulls I'll do on PLD that I don't feel comfortable at all doing on WAR simply because of the 10 second 'lol screw all you guys' window HG provides for the healer.

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

Even on big pulls Triple decimate in combination with bloodbath is epicly satisfying.

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Just want to note that triple Decimate is a bad idea.