SE we forgive you.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Since SE gives us no exit survey to determine why we have cancelled our subscriptions they leave us with no choice but to tell them on these forums. Judging by the state that reddit is in at the moment I'm far from the only one either. Your attitude is only going to harm your own enjoyment of the game when enough people quit for SE to not be able to afford to give you more 'content'.

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I like it. I don't want it to change. My attitude is putting me exactly in the position I want to be. You assume most people share your opinion when it's incredibly common on patch weeks in every MMO to have waves of negativity. You aren't the army you think you are.

Others ARE allowed to enjoy grindy content. Your wave of angry people will die down like it always does, in every game.

Let me simplify it a bit:

Remember when they admitted they over did it with the moogle side quests, based on the player's feedback?

SE, you've overdone it with the rehashed relic grind. Maybe not all of us feel this way, but a large majority do. . . Just like we did the first time. Do NOT do this again.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

I like it. I don't want it to change. My attitude is putting me exactly in the position I want to be. You assume most people share your opinion when it's incredibly common on patch weeks in every MMO to have waves of negativity. You aren't the army you think you are.

Others ARE allowed to enjoy grindy content. Your wave of angry people will die down like it always does, in every game.

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For the record his opinion on the matter isn't any less valid then your own.

I won't forgive them unless they find a way to fix the whole issue of the craftable bit.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

I like it. I don't want it to change. My attitude is putting me exactly in the position I want to be. You assume most people share your opinion when it's incredibly common on patch weeks in every MMO to have waves of negativity. You aren't the army you think you are.

Others ARE allowed to enjoy grindy content. Your wave of angry people will die down like it always does, in every game.

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You wouldn't rather they included some form of story to go along with it? You wouldn't want any new content, like the chimera or hydra they did in the first one? Your totally happy with them using the same models as the eso weapons, not even new things for glamour? Over the top excited at the prospect of 600 or so Alex NM runs? Totally satisfied that the first two portions appear to be something they could have released months ago with no detrimental impact on the game, but instead waited 6 months to release, in what appears to be a ploy to keep people subbed till 3.2, rather than producing meaningful quests and content?

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Originally Posted by GiseleValkyrie

For the record his opinion on the matter isn't any less valid then your own.

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My problem is the spam, make a megathread, and dangling money in front of themselves like they are the last man standing for the game falling.

At this point I'm convinced that the dev team is doing everything to the best of their abilities, but are severly limited by the SE top brass concerning staff and/or funding, since they consider the game "saved" and have now pulled off all the extra help the team got. That's why updates since HW are so slow and not exactly rich in content. And since I stick to this theory until proven wrong, I won't forgive SE as a whole yet :P

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

I like it. I don't want it to change. My attitude is putting me exactly in the position I want to be. You assume most people share your opinion when it's incredibly common on patch weeks in every MMO to have waves of negativity. You aren't the army you think you are.

Others ARE allowed to enjoy grindy content. Your wave of angry people will die down like it always does, in every game.

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See now in every MMO, whenever there is outrage on the forums there is always a small group that brands them the 'vocal minority'. For the most part they are usually right, they are a vocal minority. But think on this: for every MMO that died a death there was one moment of outrage on the forums that actually DID spell the doom of the game.

I've been playing this game since launch and been pretty active on the forums the whole time. I'm used to the forum negativity and I know what 'normal' looks like on here.

I have NEVER seen the forums in the state they're in today. This is not your usual patch criticism.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

See now in every MMO, whenever there is outrage on the forums there is always a small group that brands them the 'vocal minority'. For the most part they are usually right, they are a vocal minority. But think on this: for every MMO that died a death there was one moment of outrage on the forums that actually DID spell the doom of the game.

I've been playing this game since launch and been pretty active on the forums the whole time. I'm used to the forum negativity and I know what 'normal' looks like on here.

I have NEVER seen the forums in the state they're in today. This is not your usual patch criticism.

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Sadly sheep can't think for themselves.

I for one was really looking forward to the new relic quests...but once I started the fate grind I quickly realized that there is no way I am going to grind fates again. So after I got my 1st lucky crystal drop from a fate (2+ hours of non stop fate grinding with 50+ in the area banging them out) I stopped to check my seal count (capped) then warped over to my GC city to buy some more ventures. When I reached the GC area I saw someone with their new i200 BLM Anima Relic (Lunaris rod awoken) and realized at that moment this is all SE could come up with? The i200 relic weapon is nothing more than a rehashed Esoteric BlM weapon. The only difference is that there is glow around the weapon...

At this moment I realized that SE is no longer about bringing quality to the table... nope they would rather spend their time rehashing old content and laugh at us while we hand them cash.

Fates - Really SE? You know how much people hated doing fate grinds for the atmas.... of all the things you could have done you had to add fates into the grind.... this is nothing more than mind numbing crap... HOW IS THIS FUN? I love the grind for the i80 relic weapon back in 2.0.... that was something worth doing.

So after this month is over I will be dropping sub till 3.2... hopefully by then SE will bring out some quality stuff.... but I wont be holding my breath.

I am very unhappy with this game....