Racial stats suggestion

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

You'll do far more for your DPS by optimizing your gear (and ditching your Fending jewelry) than anything.

I see plenty of Xaela casters out there, who are at a disadvantage to their Raen counterparts. If it means that much to you, then change. Personally, I picked Raen because I like the way that it looks and the small amount of strength is pretty inconsequential.

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It's always been the case you will do better then someone who is less skilled or doesn't optimize gear, but assuming if you have 2 players who are at the same skill level have same bis gear but one is Raen and one is Xaela. Then the Xaela will be slightly better on melee dps and tanks.

I don't think I would want to pick Xaela because I just like the way Raen looks so much better.

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Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru

At least the stat difference isn't as extreme as ffxi, galka whm dat mp pool was hilarious.

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In one of the updates in the Seekers expansion SE actually went back and made racial stat differences less extreme, so no more low galka mp pool or taru low hp. They finally thought the imbalance in that game was worth changing but it was 14 years later.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It's always been the case you will do better then someone who is less skilled or doesn't optimize gear, but assuming if you have 2 players who are at the same skill level have same bis gear but one is Raen and one is Xaela. Then the Xaela will be slightly better on melee dps and tanks.

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The Raen will be slightly better as a caster/healer. Either way, the difference is so small that a few errant crits one way or the other could easily make up for it. Otherwise you wouldn't see so many Highlanders and Sea Wolves running around as half-naked casters. xD

True min/maxers can min/max a little, but they aren't getting all that much out of it. I prefer to have a character I like looking at.

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I don't think I would want to pick Xaela because I just like the way Raen looks so much better.

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Me either. I have a serious dislike for the black sclera they gave male Xaela. :|

Did you know because Keepers have lower STR I couldn't get the bonus on LVL 45-50 gathering nodes naturally before the expansion?
(You know the ones that grant extra hits)

You know what I did about it? Not change my clan, because Keeper master clan. I just switched out an acc if I remembered when I got to that node.
Those six stat points are soooo little, if you enjoy Raen > Xaela then you should just stick to Raen. I mean if it really truly bugs you then just change.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

They do make a lot of difference when there are very high dps checks in savage that SE seemed to put a lot of this expansion. Like my analogy would you like to go into savage having a 200 ring that you could never get to 210? I wouldn't care so much if this expansion wasn't so focused on dps checks but missing out on something like 6 str is huge when you aren't making or barely making dps checks.

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While technically they do make a difference it's so small that other factors would come into play like you playing. Not one can play perfectly and that is more likely to have a greater effect on your performance, not 6 strength.

"Boy, I sure could have survived that Tank buster if I only had chosen a race that gave me 6 more points in Vitality." -No tank ever

But for real though, I actually fantasiad myself into a Highlander for one of the reasons being that it had more strength. And guess what? My numbers did jack all. The bonus stat isn't even a 1% difference, it's more like a 0.001% difference, it's that minuscule.

If your geared enough for savage, then the best you can do is change/improve your rotation, put on some STR accessories if your a Tank. Use food and potions when needed, etc.
But if you really REALLY want to change, then go for it. In fact, go Hyur Highlander, cause that race has the same STR as Xeala, but an extra point in Vitality. If your a tank your gonna need that one extra point.

6 str is about a fraction of a percent for a damage increase. Not even a 1% increase (11-12 str is around a 1% increase in the current gear)


If that makes or breaks your dps checks you should take a look at all the things you or your party members must be doing wrong.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It is something that is unoptimized that can be optimized

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As every other person in this thread has pointed out, the minuscule stat differences aren't going to affect anything. Picking a race because it's "optimized" to your role is incredibly pointless due to how small the stat boosts are. Not to mention that optimizing your character for one role in this manner means that you will be "unoptimized" as you put it for every other role in the game. There is no point in complaining that the stats are different for each race, because at this point they're little more than flavor text. The only time you'll be at an advantage or disadvantage because of it is possibly in the earliest levels where your stats are still in the double digits. If it REALLY bothers you that you don't get that extra 1-2 points of damage in every thirty seconds or so, (which is still random because all attack numbers have a varying range to them to begin with), then you can always fantasia constantly whenever you want to play a different class. I'm sure whoever is directly in charge of the Mogstation would be happy with that.....

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Which is why I suggested stats should be tied to something that doesn't effect looks and guardian is the perfect thing because nobody sees it and its only on your profile in your character screen.

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Nah, we already have guardian to affect our near pointless elemental resistances. Besides, as far as I know you can't change your guardian period, which means that you'll be having to roll alts to "optimize" your stats for whatever class you want to play. The entire point of the way the game is set up seems to be so you DON'T have to roll alts, seeing as how we can watch any cutscene from any inn room, (baring text bubbles from non-cutscene NPC interactions), and can play as ANY class on the same character with levels being independent and stat allotment being tied to the class itself rather than your character as a whole. The ONLY way they could tie these, (again almost entirely unimportant), stat differences to the guardian would be if you could change it at a whim outside of combat, which would be either pointless or annoying.....

It seems to me though that you're not complaining that you don't have these stats, or that they could make you preform better. You're complaining that in theory someone could preform slightly better than you in the one in a trillion situation that you two would be preforming the exact same otherwise, which is frankly a bit petty that you can't live with the idea of someone doing slightly better than you. The solution to this isn't to change where these slight stat changes come from, but to remove them entirely and just give a flat boost across all the stats based on the average. Again though, this likely won't happen because as small as the stats are, they're almost entirely flavor text, and I'd rather them not even take the time to worry with that change since it really doesn't matter....

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Originally Posted by Gamer3427

Good points

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Just a small fix but you can indeed, in fact, change the deity you follow.

As AskaRay pointed out the nodes. Im pretty sure the stat differences are there for gatheres. Certain races can get the bonuses on nodes to other races. Its so insignificant that it wont make much difference in combat, its just there for gathering.