healer vit points

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Originally Posted by Jamillion

So you are willfully being a detriment to your team. Stacking Vit on a healer at the expense of Mind is objectively the wrong way to heal in PvE group content.

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Is he "willfully being a detriment to his team" because there is a flaw in his approach or because he plays differently than you? If there is a flaw, point out the issue and have something to back it up.

Personally, I'm curious about Sam Kitwood's approach because it is similar to a viable summoner/healer build in another game I've played, Dofus. The idea was to focus on your own survival by stacking Vit and letting your minions do the tanking, healing, and dpsing with you supporting their actions.

I'd like to hear more about how it works out in this game. In addition, I'm no fan of crit. Crit is subject to RNG and is not dependable.

Meanwhile, Speed is dependable. Its effect is there every spell.

So, I'm very much interested in this quirky thing Sam Kitwood is doing. Care to provide more information about your results, S.K.? :)

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Originally Posted by samkitwood

I can dps with higher damage , whispering dawn is increased and overall throw out heals more quickly. I tried the crit thing and went from like 10% crits to 15% whick imo doesn't benefit from quicker heals n increased hots/dots. Can solo heal Alex normal without running into mana issues and all trials bar thordan ex and expert dungeons.

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Your vit build isn't clever, it's just very sub par and intentionally non potent. You don't even need vit for any of the casual content you seem to be doing. I find it very hard to believe you can solo heal any of the previous ex primals with that build. It would behoove you to use a hymn and put most of your points if not all of them into mind, for a start.

I don't think people realize that for a healer, the weapon accounts for almost 75% of your health power. Just strip all your gear and you can see your healing is still very high with weapon alone. It's not THAT farfetched to solo-heal a primal with all VIT accessories.

Lots of drama nerds in this thread. As long as OP is happy, people live, and a fight is won, who gives a shit?

The primary goal in a game is to win. It doesn't matter how, when, where, or why. Just win and be happy.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Lots of drama nerds in this thread. As long as OP is happy, people live, and a fight is won, who gives a shit?

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The OP asked for opinions and thoughts. It just so happens he's following a bad build - people are telling him this.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

So, I'm very much interested in this quirky thing Sam Kitwood is doing. Care to provide more information about your results, S.K.? :)

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Will keep you posted, but as of now I can cycle full adlo shields real quick when dt is on cool down. Works so well for me. Thanks for the positive reply :)

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Originally Posted by Anova

They did change the crit formula so it's not as powerful at higher ilvls…

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But if anything, Crit is better than it was in 2.X.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

But if anything, Crit is better than it was in 2.X.

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There's a scholar in my fc with bis gear and can in one day crit loads n the next crit never. RNG isn't on my side at all haha I once casted out 30 adlos n only got 2 crits, n that luck is pretty much consistent for me >.<

Have you been grouped with bad tanks that you are scared of your survival that you put all your bonus points in VIT? I'm not judging or anything you can play how you want I'm just trying to understand the logic behind this. With the way CRIT works now I can understand playing with the secondary stats like SS and DET but VIT just seems like a waste especially as your bonus points.

I just like the idea of been able to take a few more hits or bigger hits like the 3 orbs in a4, means dps n off tank can keep doin there thing while I only require my fairy to top me off. My stats currently are:
Vit-798
Mind-887
Piety-547
Accuracy-414
Crits-487
Det-415
SS-813

Hp-14620
Mp-12205

All stats are base. No food or other buffs.

Crit directly interacts with scholar skills, spell speed doesnt. Its that simple with the spellspeed vs crit that has come up in this thread.

As for vit, its only of any use to stack this higher than you should if you are unable to get out of aoes or react to boss attacks that hit you but can be avoided. However non of this should be happening. Mind is you primary stat as a healer, it increases your healing as well as your dps in cleric stance. Vitality does neither, it is a dead stat after a point. Stacking mind makes your helaing, shielding and dps as a sch far more efficient and far more powerful. Vitality doesnt.

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Originally Posted by samkitwood

I just like the idea of been able to take a few more hits or bigger hits like the 3 orbs in a4, means dps n off tank can keep doin there thing while I only require my fairy to top me off. My stats currently are:
Vit-798
Mind-887
Piety-547
Accuracy-414
Crits-487
Det-415
SS-813

Hp-14620
Mp-12205

All stats are base. No food or other buffs.

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I assume you are talking about alexander normal? I did this place as SCH not even at i180, and was able to manage to deal with one full set of orbs myself without outside healing. Its a matter of utilising sch skill set to be able to do this, so this is a very very very moot point you bring up about stacking vit for this. Its simply not needed here at all.