The Names of the Warring Triad

Similar does not mean the same. In fact, its very definition implies difference.

Toshin, as far as we've been given information, is more or less analogous to the English "eikon." However, because the Triad existed before XIV in VI, they couldn't call them "the Eikon Triad" and get the same 'ff feels'

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Here we talk a little bit about the word used to describe Odin in Japanese (闘神=TOSHIN=lit. god of fighting) and how it is similar to the Japanese term 三闘神 (SAN-TOSHIN=lit. three gods of fighting), or what is translated in the EN version as the Warring Triad. It’s here that we mention that toshin is actually just the term that the Allagans used for primals (primals being a relatively recent (in Eorzean history) term).

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So Odin is named "Primal". That's all That is said here... Please give full infos when you quote your sources... Maybe he is part of the warring triad, maybe he isn't...

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Originally Posted by Shirobi

"Here we talk a little bit about the word used to describe Odin in Japanese (闘神=TOSHIN=lit. god of fighting) and how it is similar to the Japanese term 三闘神 (SAN-TOSHIN=lit. three gods of fighting), or what is translated in the EN version as the Warring Triad. "

Odin is one of the Three Gods of Fighting, what is translated to English as "The Warring Triad".

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They're saying that term used to describe Odin (god of fighting) is similar to the term used to describe the Warring Triad (three gods of fighting).

Two objects being described by similiar terms does not mean that they're the same thing.

For example, football (as in soccer) and American football are described using similar terms, but you wouldn't infer that soccer must therefore be the same game as American football.

The names of the warring triad arent gonna have ff like names. I think this will be new.

It's also confirmed ingame that the warring triad is locked within the failing Centrifugal Crystal Engine on Azys Lla. Odin is not one of them since they haven't broken free yet.

OK, Zantetsuken is a Primal while Odin, The Dark Divinity, is an Eikon apparently.

(My theory is that upon defeat, Odin's will "Summons" his sword from his remaining Aether and then the sword tempers a host to become Odin's new body)

But the Warring Triad has nothing to do with Odin since at the time of Allag Odin was Mortal for a time. (With sealing him and the demon blade at the cost of her life likly what caused his final transformation) but The Triad predates Allag and are suposidly infinatly more powerful than the Primals we've slayen to date.

It's almost like they are immortal aspects of nature. Goddess=Atral Aether, Demon=Umbral Aether, and Fiend either representing Anti-Aether (Nillity?) Or simply Chaos it's self.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Now this what do you think the Triad's members will be named in XIV?

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Sandy, Cindy, and Mindy... Magus Sisters primal fight!

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Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe

So Odin is named "Primal". That's all That is said here... Please give full infos when you quote your sources... Maybe he is part of the warring triad, maybe he isn't...

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Odin is named "God of Fighting" and there are "Three Gods of Fighting". And I provided a link so please dont imply I did not.

Given what the dev team has said, there is simply no reason aside from preference of headcannon, to presume that Odin is not a part of the Triad (Remember we have yet to fight Odin himself, we have only fought the shadows created by his sword.).

At the same time, headcanon's the exact same reason to say that Odin IS. That very quote you mentioned says the allags used the term "toshin" for the primals, the Garleans later started using the term "eikon" because the Allag used it first, so on that reasoning, Garuda is also on the Warring Triad, and Titan, and Ifrit, and Bismark and...it's really not looking like a Triad anymore, is it? Just because the Warring Triad is called "Three gods of fighting" doesn't mean there aren't more "gods of fighting"

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

It’s here that we mention that toshin is actually just the term that the Allagans used for primals (primals being a relatively recent (in Eorzean history) term).

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In fact, that very same paragraph, Ferne calls Odin a primal. Does it mean he ISN'T part of the Warring Triad? That's yet to be seen. Does it mean he IS? That's also unknown yet. Personally, I don't think he is

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Originally Posted by Shirobi

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...47#post3271647

"Here we talk a little bit about the word used to describe Odin in Japanese (闘神=TOSHIN=lit. god of fighting) and how it is similar to the Japanese term 三闘神 (SAN-TOSHIN=lit. three gods of fighting), or what is translated in the EN version as the Warring Triad. "

Odin is one of the Three Gods of Fighting, what is translated to English as "The Warring Triad".

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You read into this a bit too deeply, like jumped a shark on this one. They're not saying Odin is a part of the Warring Triad just that the words are in fact similar. In that same exact post, in fact right after your quote, they mention that "It’s here that we mention that toshin is actually just the term that the Allagans used for primals (primals being a relatively recent (in Eorzean history) term)." If we jumped on this that means that Bahamut is one of the Warring Triad. Garuda is one of the Warring Triad. Ravana is one of the Warring Triad. After all, they are all toshin- ah but see now we see that not all of them can in fact be part of the warring triad. For there to be Three... you need a count of three and not a count of all the eikons/toshin/primals.