useless scholars

I main sch and love to dps. Of course there are times it's tough depending on the content. I was shocked to heal a new tank on expert the other day, it's been awhile. He fell to 5% hp with adlo\Ss on before I can cast my 3rd dot.
Encourage the sch to try dps ing more. Sometimes healers hold back cuz the group blames the healer for wipes. If they feel the group isn't a bunch of complainers they might get used to it..... maybe

In most situations I'm going to err on the side of caution for most of the content. I have to see how the party is working together. If I feel that I can get away with it, I'll start throwing DPS in as well(Fractal Minotaur is my biggest one). I get annoyed when I have to babysit a tank with less HP than a ranged DPS(or me) and am expected to DPS.

if they arent comfortable with it, they really messed up the first 50 levels of the game because it practically BEGS you to use cleric with how pitiful the amount of outgoing damage is

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Originally Posted by samkitwood

I get new players are learning n that but your not new to a role in ilvl 170 gear imo.

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To be fair he could be a Smn main and is just recently is switching to Sch and had tomes to spare.

There's a flip side to this coin, and that's the sch that thinks he's a straight dps class, in cleric 24/7 while leaning on the whm hard to carry them. A great sch mitigates damage and does dps. If they're not mitigating hits then that's more worthless to me, and I'd rather have them switch to an actual dps class so I can get the credit for solo healing.

i don't even understand what this guy is saying. Speak proper sentences.

Just one simple example. Neverrear/Fractal. You can either stand still and contribute 0% DPS. Or you can do damage and contribute 20-25% dps (as a WHM, as a SCH I think you could do same if not more), making this boring run for ESOs faster and more challenging. As a WHM I have tons of time to DPS in those dungeons and I find it interesting to compete with DPS on damage :D Then there are tight DPS checks on ex primals and savage, that pretty much leave you no choice. And DPSing on primals isn't as easy as in dungeons, so you might want to start practicing unless you are not going to do content that is harder than end game dungeons.

I see awkward SCHs all the time, standing there trying to look pretty with their book in their hand and forgetting they are an ABC job. ABC = Always Be Casting.

It's okay though, you know they are not end-game material. Cleric Stance+Swiftcast+Shadowflare please. That mob isn't moving and neither are you.

Or ones that seem to rely on Stoneskin way too much and never use Adlo. Are you a WHM stuck in a SCH body bro?

Healers who do not DPS still hell lot better than DPS do not know how to DPS.

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Originally Posted by baopee

Healers who do not DPS still hell lot better than DPS do not know how to DPS.

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Well we can say part of that is because the skill floor for healing is low in this game outside of the end-game content like current extreme primals and Alex Savage.

DPS has a higher floor to even put up decent numbers. Hitting a few mindless buttons as a DPS without regard to combos and rotations can mean the simple DPSing healer will out DPS them easily.