Please buff the pvp ranged LB.

I like how the OP didn't mention the biggest problem with the ranged LB; It doesn't work on slopes or any changes in elevation. Even if you have a bottleneck node like the southeastern uphill one, it won't hit anyone if they are on a different elevation on you.

Other than that, it's effective range is an utter joke to justify it doing less than a caster LB; The width isn't any wider than bodies standing next to each other. And personally, I can't tell if I'm shooting where I'm facing or at who I'm targeting because I don't see my projected AoE.

The only time I can reliably use it is to overlap with a caster who is setting up their caster LB to garunteed a kill. Me using it by myself hits for 4k-4.5k at the most and probably won't hit anyone by itself unless they're holmgang'd or stunned.

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Originally Posted by adn

More like nerf the melee LB please. And fix Cometeor so that I don't get hit by it even when I'm out of it. And make the healer LB affect all players on the entire map pls yoshi-p. And give my WAR the DPS LB instead of the tank one so I can one-shot people.

But really, drop it in a chokepoint and people have nowhere to run. I do agree perhaps the area of effect could be a bit wider.

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The choke points located in the center-ish area of the maps aren't narrow enough to make full advantage of it. As for the nodes that have bottle neck entrances, they're on different elevations so it doesn't hit either (specifically, the uphill node close to center and the uphill one on the SE side of the map)

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

Free kill... For anyone who sees the BRD/MCH using it.

And since you didn't seem to read the OP yes I want it buffed >_> it's in no way a "free kill" it locks you in place for a signposted and easily avoided attack that even if it does hit something only does like 20%hp in damage. and unlike mages we don't have an AoE sleep/bind to make everyone hold still while we use it.

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BRD/MCH have a good amount of binds,heavys and stuns so folk can't dodge and using anything but Melee on someone at full health is wasteful.

Why would you want an AoE sleep/bind anyway for an LB that doesn't even have a radius of 5y?

Though MCH does have an AoE stun centred around themselves so there's that if everyone's stood in a straight line for some reason lol.

It's certainly not 20% either as BRD/MCH is just a slight lower potency than Caster LB and that rips a good chunk off unmitigated.

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Originally Posted by Bhuni

BRD/MCH have a good amount of binds,heavys and stuns so folk can't dodge and using anything but Melee on someone at full health is wasteful.

Why would you want an AoE sleep/bind anyway for an LB that doesn't even have a radius of 5y?

Though MCH does have an AoE stun centred around themselves so there's that if everyone's stood in a straight line for some reason lol.

It's certainly not 20% either as BRD/MCH is just a slight lower potency than Caster LB and that rips a good chunk off unmitigated.

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BRD does not have a stun or heavy, and MCH's stun is melee range (Which is often a bad idea considering their damage penalty). They have a single target bind (with the MCH's bind being a shared cooldown with heavy), but that's far less synergy than casters having a AoE Bind/sleep for their AoE LB. Ranged LB isn't good for finishing off people either because of the cast time; it's often enough time for someone to land a heal in (and if no one is within range to heal them, then honestly you don't even need a LB to finish them off in that circumstance)

It's a ranged LB on a class that can't really set it up to take advantage on the linear AoE, and the AoE itself has an extremely low effective range for less damage.

Honestly, both caster and ranged LB really aren't that strong. 20-40% of someone's hp is the average and you'd get a far better milage from your actual burst rotation than AoE for burst. Where it shines is the fact that it's hitting more than one target and can often have devastating results if two caster LBs overlap each other. The problem with that is the ranged LB is again, has a pitiful effective range compared to caster (which is also the case in PvE sadly) so you'd be lucky to ever line up more than one target in time to overlap with someone else's LB.

Bind, sleep, or stun someone first before using it, or use it down a narrow pathway, as seal rock has a lot of those. It's fine.

I wish the range LB would be kind of similar to caster LB. But instead of a telegraph round area where you can cast it within the range, have it like a straight line telegraph starting from you and extended it to the limited range would be easier to cast.

I am one of the worst players ever and even then I don't think that I have ever so much as taken damage from a BRD/MCH LB in PVP, even when the enemy team is playing well and trying to sync it up with their team's burst. Everything they are saying about it is true; it's noticeably the least effective LB and it doesn't work right anyway with the elevation glitch. The only real use it seems to have right now is to frighten players into stepping away from the template if your team is around you and you want to make some space, which is sort of lame for the time it takes to use it.

Most BRD/MCH I've seen tend to drop it on clusterfucks occurring at a tomelith. It could probably use some adjusting though. For one, it's total bollocks in both PVP AND PVE that you can't even really see its trajectory lol. A width adjustment would probably be okay too...the line is really narrow. I've accidentally ran INTO one and was still able to run through to the other side without taking damage, haha.

Sometimes is pointless to use the Ranger LB. Without the shadowbind you will fail or your target being attacked after bind him.

In the other hand, Caster LB is more effective, the aoe effect is mor wide than ranged lb. If they are not fast to move, targets are affected by the damage. With Our LB, just two steps and /laugh.

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Originally Posted by Bhuni

BRD/MCH have a good amount of binds,heavys and stuns so folk can't dodge and using anything but Melee on someone at full health is wasteful.

Why would you want an AoE sleep/bind anyway for an LB that doesn't even have a radius of 5y?

Though MCH does have an AoE stun centred around themselves so there's that if everyone's stood in a straight line for some reason lol.

It's certainly not 20% either as BRD/MCH is just a slight lower potency than Caster LB and that rips a good chunk off unmitigated.

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Bards have one heavy if they cross class feint, no stuns, and one bind that breaks as soon as the target takes damage.

I think I've gotten two kills with bard lb ever, and they were from the same lb fired into the middle of a massive 3 way skirmish. :/

It supposed to have some flaw as it's a ranged LB.