Advice to returning bard?

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Originally Posted by Neela

but now i think there are 2-3 macros even Bards can use lately like the "Empyreal Arrow, Misery's End, Bloodletter & Heavy Shot" smash-macro

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Macros for skills are the worst idea ever.

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Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir

Macros for skills are the worst idea ever.

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let me guess you are playing on pc? ;)

Well i thought that for a long time too... but in this case it's just to stock 4 skills in priority on one button (ps4).
It's not to activate them auto. all in a row but in an "if > than" scenario. starting with the highest > lowest potency.

Couldnt think of a scenario where a manual choice of those skills would be an advantage... you? :)

Lots of times... barrage almost ready... better save emp arrow. Ohh this mob has a spell i want to silence.. better save blunt.

Pluusss. If you are spamming that button i hope you have heavy shot set before blunt and mysery. Otherwise if both are available. You'll be wasting gcd time.

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Originally Posted by Neela

let me guess you are playing on pc? ;)

Well i thought that for a long time too... but in this case it's just to stock 4 skills in priority on one button (ps4).
It's not to activate them auto. all in a row but in an "if > than" scenario. starting with the highest > lowest potency.

Couldnt think of a scenario where a manual choice of those skills would be an advantage... you? :)

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Macros are not in queue like normal skills, this fact makes them slower, I mean, if i don't use macros i can get like 12 skill in 30 seconds with 2.5 GCD but if you are using macros instead normal skills you get like 10 or 11 skill in the same time (30 secs).

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Originally Posted by Neela

let me guess you are playing on pc? ;)

Well i thought that for a long time too... but in this case it's just to stock 4 skills in priority on one button (ps4).
It's not to activate them auto. all in a row but in an "if > than" scenario. starting with the highest > lowest potency.

Couldnt think of a scenario where a manual choice of those skills would be an advantage... you? :)

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I am pretty sure he mean't it is a known fact using macros especially for dps is an actual loss of dps

I am on PS4 and absolutely do not believe in macros except for scholar.

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Originally Posted by Hsinrou

Hi,

I just returned to the game after being away for quite some time. I'm thinking of getting heavensward, but the changes to the bard class that I've read about seem unappealing. Do any of the folks who mained as bard pre-heavensward and really liked the play style have any advice regarding possibly switching classes? I really like and am used to the fluid and fast paced style of the pre-hw bard. Is there another class that is somewhat similar or which other bards have found fun to play?

Thanks!

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Personally, I've never been "anti" Heavensward Bard. Yeah it took some getting use to, as far as the new playstyle goes when you reach lvl 52+, but I really enjoy the job still. It could use some more QoL changes as well one or two other things. You could lvl it and opt to keep playing Bard the way it was in ARR, but playing the 2.x way...in a 3.x environment, is probably not the best of ideas imo.

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Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta

A lot of bards have switched to Summoner though because apparently it plays like old bard which idk how lol but thats what they say.

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SMN have high dmg output as well as high mobility (seems that way anyway)...what Brd use to have when 2.0 (ARR) launched. Only thing I can think of.

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Originally Posted by Hsinrou

Hi,

I just returned to the game after being away for quite some time. I'm thinking of getting heavensward, but the changes to the bard class that I've read about seem unappealing. Do any of the folks who mained as bard pre-heavensward and really liked the play style have any advice regarding possibly switching classes? I really like and am used to the fluid and fast paced style of the pre-hw bard. Is there another class that is somewhat similar or which other bards have found fun to play?

Thanks!

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Been a BRD since day one and still loving the class. Play the class, get it to lv60 and you will definitely enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Odin_hunter

Been a BRD since day one and still loving the class. Play the class, get it to lv60 and you will definitely enjoy it.

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Or she will see how clunky and poorly implemented the new bard is and drift off to find another class.

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Originally Posted by Linadae

Or she will see how clunky and poorly implemented the new bard is and drift off to find another class.

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Such negativity.

Anyway about controllers/macros.
I play on the PC with a controller, and personally my BRD has no macros on it. Used to have song macros and I even got rid of them. I use... one full crossbar, one extended crossbar (I have it set up so that LT>RT and RT>LT are the same thing, so only eight additional buttons), and ....about half another crossbar but the buttons are spread around (mostly AOE skills on that bar). I've personally had no issue with buttons, but then again I'm used to switching between the bars quickly.