About that TP bar

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Originally Posted by Ladon

I'm not going to bother bards though considering the dmg loss they take. I just leave it up to them.

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I love you.

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Originally Posted by Nikoshae

I love you.

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It's an interesting phenomenon with Bards today. Do we use our songs willingly giving up 20 percent damage on the one hand only to have others say our dps is sub par and that Bards shouldn't be included in certain content because their overall damage is low.

When I use my Bard I'm quick to play for a healer in need of MP and will play for someone in need of TP including myself. On the other hand I have to chuckle when using Foe to help others while sacrificing my own damage especially in todays parser environment.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

It's an interesting phenomenon with Bards today. Do we use our songs willingly giving up 20 percent damage on the one hand only to have others say our dps is sub par and that Bards shouldn't be included in certain content because their overall damage is low.

When I use my Bard I'm quick to play for a healer in need of MP and will play for someone in need of TP including myself. On the other hand I have to chuckle when using Foe to help others while sacrificing my own damage especially in todays parser environment.

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Nope wrong Foe's Requiem does not hurt your DPS, unless you are counting that three-second cast time in which...no

Also, the damage reduction for Ballad and Paeon is 15% now, changed with HW.

And yeah I try to look at everyone's bars...it's so nice, no more guessing games about who has TP and who doesn't.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Nope wrong Foe's Requiem does not hurt your DPS, unless you are counting that three-second cast time in which...no
Also, the damage reduction for Ballad and Paeon is 15% now, changed with HW.
And yeah I try to look at everyone's bars...it's so nice, no more guessing games about who has TP and who doesn't.

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Thank you for the clarifications. I need to bard more! :)

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Thank you for the clarifications. I need to bard more! :)

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No prob :)
(Yess join the legion of the best job in XIV) I mean what...I said nothing

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Nope wrong Foe's Requiem does not hurt your DPS, unless you are counting that three-second cast time in which...no

Also, the damage reduction for Ballad and Paeon is 15% now, changed with HW.

And yeah I try to look at everyone's bars...it's so nice, no more guessing games about who has TP and who doesn't.

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With the bards i see latelty i almost thought it did, you would think in a 4 man dungeon if the other DPS is a SMN or blm they would foe, i have watched plenty of runs where the bard never even bothers to foes, to the point i thought they got a massive penatly for it.

and let's not get started on the "i refuse to use WM" bards. and yet they rarely ever move when attacking..

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

With the bards i see latelty i almost thought it did, you would think in a 4 man dungeon if the other DPS is a SMN or blm they would foe, i have watched plenty of runs where the bard never even bothers to foes, to the point i thought they got a massive penatly for it.

and let's not get started on the "i refuse to use WM" bards. and yet they rarely ever move when attacking..

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I remember the good ol' days...going into CT and it being a full bard party...for me to be the only one who sings a note.
Sometimes though I'd have to fight for first song...rare, that was...oh well.

Also I have yet to see those in dungeons, mostly because I never get double-bard in any of them... maybe when I level my NIN finally I'll meet them (and smack them upside the head. You aren't moving, use it geez. You ARE moving it better be a good reason.)

In dungeons I tend to sing Foe only at bosses really. Everything else depends on the fight. Some fights I'll open with it others I'll save it for a DPS check though as I get more comfy with fights I see where I can sign and still get enough regen back for the DPS check and then still get enough MP back for TP or MP if needed.

If you have a BLM/SMN in the party, Foe's Requiem will make trash mobs die faster. Which is a very good thing.

Honestly, when I Astro, 99% of the people I've played with haven't needed a Spire, but the fact that I can SEE that they don't need it is fabulous. No one ever asks when I pull it or have it on hold, so I usually just burn it for the AOE card buff.