Fray and the dark arts

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Well I'm sure for most of them they can set up out posts. It'd be retarded to abandon a job class just because we go to, say, Oethard.

New contenent/Nation, new job npc. It's really that simple.

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They don't really need to leave Eoerzea. The SCH job quests in Heavensward still largely took place in La Noscea.

Same with Warrior.

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Originally Posted by Kurashiki

Wonder if we'll ever hear about or see/meet other DRKs in the lore/game, though I'd love to see more of "Fray" in the future too

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I am so sick of "Fray" and "his" Angsty Teen's First Nietzche philosophical spiels. Yes I know the secret about him that's what makes him extra annoying.

And what makes him that way?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

And what makes him that way?

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we do. with our vigilante heroics and being too nice.

Fray is angsty? good thing got a emo haircut as seen in my portrait

Fray is not angsty, s/he is just sick and tired of everyone lumping their shit onto the Warrior of Light.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Fray is not angsty, s/he is just sick and tired of everyone lumping their shit onto the Warrior of Light.

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"Oh woah is me for I am a slave to the small folk when I choose ot be a hero. WOah is me that i cannot conceve of turning my back on them. WOah is me I must save myself from being selfless. I must teach you half assed misunderstood Neitzche and Randian Objectivism to teach you that you are a slave to the Moochers... woah is me.. I will save you from yourself!"

Its exactly the sort of immature shit you'd get from an angsty teen who just discovered Nietzche and Rand.

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Originally Posted by jomoru

"Oh woah is me for I am a slave to the small folk when I choose ot be a hero.

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You didn't choose. Hydaelyn chose you. There's an important distinction between "I want to do this" and "I am being forced to do this".

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Originally Posted by fm_fenrir

You didn't choose. Hydaelyn chose you. There's an important distinction between "I want to do this" and "I am being forced to do this".

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Hydaelyn doen't force anything. She at best is can be mildly annoying at you by spamming you with vague visions. The first choice you have in game is to say why your character is doing it, wealth, glory to help people etc. You choose to be an adventurer. You litterally choose to take every quest. Now the Lure of xp and treasure is given but there is always a choice and that's what makes his whole premise annoying.

More to the point all the "Problematic" stuff Fray tries to show you as reasons to quit the sort of quests that cover are generally NOT the ones pushed by Hydaelyn. When in the game does Hydaelyn push you to go after random bandits? To save women getting raped?