Tanks, please use strength gear.. :(

In what dungeons are you going oom in lol how do you even do that? Also a full strength tank won't carry bad dps if that's the issue. If dps are doing good dps the fight won't take long regardless. It's a dungeon if it's going by to slow add some dps if it's still going by to slow look at the dps. While a tank who puts out good dps is lovely it's not gonna turn a 5 minute fight into a 2 minute fight just cause they went full strength. And the fact that your going oom just makes me think your one of those horrid healers who keep a permanent aoe regen going when there's next to no damage going out. And if your a scholar you have even less reason to be going oom.

If the dungeon run is going slow, you should probably check with the dps first....

It's not very nice to contribute to the crusade of discriminating against Tanks who are wearing the Accessories that the game tells them to wear.

I stack VIT and Parry. I don't DPS on my PLD. So I better see you holy spamming/cleric stance because I won't lose that much health and that allows my healers to DPS instead.

U mad?

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

I stack VIT and Parry. I don't DPS on my PLD. So I better see you holy spamming/cleric stance because I won't lose that much health and that allows my healers to DPS instead.

U mad?

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250 Parry only adds a mediocre amount of damage reduction, not even 1% DR.

Vitality doesn't actually lower damage you take. Strength does by making the fight shorter.

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Originally Posted by Its_Elodie

With different people playing the same game there's going to be different play styles. If you don't care for democracy in people choosing how to gear their chars then roll your own str tank or make a premade with someone who is so you have a max deeps party so you can have that extra 5-10min saved from your run to watch the grass grow in game or chew on some Cheetos on your couch. People are going to play how they want to, this isn't communist Russia. I don't personally care how they do it as long as they fill the requirements of their role. Dictating the str only playstyle as the only correct way to tank (and yes I stack str on mine but I realize others don't and I'm fine with it) really doesn't make someone who uses vit any less of a tank, it just means the runs going to be longer, but that's certainly not going to kill *me* anyways.

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Where in my thread does it state any of this? I only made the thread as a suggestion to new players. =)

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Originally Posted by Drtoxicmedica

Well point is strength specing alone is useless if dps are really sub par anyways so in the end a good party is a good party a set of strength gear wont make up for dps pulling 200-300 less each then they should so the argument is just dumb because it's so situational. Claiming strength acc alone will provide a decrease in dungeon time is just looking at a small difference and claiming it to be the only factor. Especially in a part of the game that matters quite little

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Making the dungeon intentionally longer and more frustrating on your healers is fun.

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Originally Posted by T2teddy

Looked at your lodestone. You are not a healer. You are a summoner which is arguably top dps job atm...
My question is HOW are you running out of MP....

Poor little OP having to be in a dungeon for more than 15 minutes...good lord :p

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I .. am actually a summoner for roleplay purposes, so I can wear summoner gear. Sorry dude, I have multiple toons/characters.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

250 Parry only adds a mediocre amount of damage reduction, not even 1% DR.

Vitality doesn't actually lower damage you take. Strength does by making the fight shorter.

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My point exactly #nochill. I completely agree with you, but you still have a Whiner thread here.

With different people playing the same game there's going to be different play styles. If you don't care for democracy in people choosing how to gear their chars then roll your own str tank or make a premade with someone who is so you have a max deeps party so you can have that extra 5-10min saved from your run to watch the grass grow in game or chew on some Cheetos on your couch. People are going to play how they want to, this isn't communist Russia. I don't personally care how they do it as long as they fill the requirements of their role. Dictating the str only playstyle as the only correct way to tank (and yes I stack str on mine but I realize others don't and I'm fine with it) really doesn't make someone who uses vit any less of a tank, it just means the runs going to be longer, but that's certainly not going to kill *me* anyways.

The problem is SE really needs to have a look at these tank stats and adjust things so tanks that are gearing they way most tanks expect to aren't *wrong*... or just get rid of the gear altogether\slap STR on it. Right now there's a subculture of tanks in the "know" about what they should be doing, but just as an example my friend just started tanking and he asked me what to do with his stat points. I told him STR, and he said "wow, I was thinking VIT because it's defense-y. Glad I asked."

It's just what people who have ever tanked anywhere else *expect*, and it would be nice for SE to acknowledge that the stat is utterly useless and do something about it. There's too many tanks out there gearing the way they *expect* to and too many people giving them shit for it. This thread is a pretty good example.

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Well point is strength specing alone is useless if dps are really sub par anyways so in the end a good party is a good party a set of strength gear wont make up for dps pulling 200-300 less each then they should so the argument is just dumb because it's so situational. Claiming strength acc alone will provide a decrease in dungeon time is just looking at a small difference and claiming it to be the only factor. Especially in a part of the game that matters quite little

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Except extra hp allows for a bigger margin of error for those not as comfortable. Not every tank is fully capable of full slaying/stance dancing just like not all healers are ok with dpsing. Neither is optimal but it's not wrong. What's wrong is saying that in order to play basic content you have to play in these ways to be even worth a spot in the party. I use strength acc a fair amount my self but just because others choose to play more conservatively is certainly not wrong in basic content