Red Mage, again?

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Originally Posted by AdamuKun322

Watch Ilbred be the Red Mage Trainer. Haha

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RDM weapon confirmed to be Raubahn's actual left arm.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

Scholar and Summoner share the same base class, Arcanist, which means that whatever stats you set for one will be the same for the other.

This is a really big problem considering Summoner uses Intelligence while Scholar uses Mind. You either max one and gimp the other, or you half-ass both of them. Neither is a good solution.

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OK. :) I just purchased a bonus stat point respec from my GC, so I didn't notice. Guess that matters only if you intend to keep swapping between summoner and scholar.

You know what would be funny and just drive people crazy? If they made Red Mage a great class. For the sake of argument a DPS with a heavy bit of support, really great skills, high end damage spells, cool looking melee DPS, even some healing and party healing spells, the works.... but in keeping with the lore of the Red Mage they make a third its skills INT, a third MND, and the other third STR. Make players split their bonus points three ways.... 3 Primary stats.

The Red Mage is a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none.

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

You know what would be funny and just drive people crazy? If they made Red Mage a great class. For the sake of argument a DPS with a heavy bit of support, really great skills, high end damage spells, cool looking melee DPS, even some healing and party healing spells, the works.... but in keeping with the lore of the Red Mage they make a third its skills INT, a third MND, and the other third STR. Make players split their bonus points three ways.... 3 Primary stats.

The Red Mage is a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none.

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Which makes them a great Tank. There is no such thing as a person who can do everything in this game unfortunately.

He would be either underpowered and nobody would want one, or overpowered and he would replace everyone if he could be everything.

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Originally Posted by AdamuKun322

Watch Ilbred be the Red Mage Trainer. Haha

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Unintentional or not, that typo is hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Which makes them a great Tank. There is no such thing as a person who can do everything in this game unfortunately.

He would be either underpowered and nobody would want one, or overpowered and he would replace everyone if he could be everything.

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Yeah man, I was just making light of how they could implement it and as they do with most jobs, make the community lose their minds. It would be like the Summoner/Scholar in the same job, it would be hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

Scholar and Summoner share the same base class, Arcanist, which means that whatever stats you set for one will be the same for the other.

This is a really big problem considering Summoner uses Intelligence while Scholar uses Mind. You either max one and gimp the other, or you half-ass both of them. Neither is a good solution.

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There's this little thing calle a Keeper's Hymn you can buy for 250 seals at your GC Hq. Trade in one piece of i160 from your expert roulette and you can buy 3. 'Nuff said about the SCH/SMN issue.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

There's this little thing calle a Keeper's Hymn you can buy for 250 seals at your GC Hq. Trade in one piece of i160 from your expert roulette and you can buy 3. 'Nuff said about the SCH/SMN issue.

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But the point is you shouldn't have to be doing that every single time. That's just a lazy band aid fix to ignore the problem at hand.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Which makes them a great Tank. There is no such thing as a person who can do everything in this game unfortunately.

He would be either underpowered and nobody would want one, or overpowered and he would replace everyone if he could be everything.

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I'd typically assume that a Tank would need to be a master of tanking.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

But the point is you shouldn't have to be doing that every single time. That's just a lazy band aid fix to ignore the problem at hand.

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Also that while that is annoying, the issue with the split classes is balancing them, not playing them.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

There's this little thing calle a Keeper's Hymn you can buy for 250 seals at your GC Hq. Trade in one piece of i160 from your expert roulette and you can buy 3. 'Nuff said about the SCH/SMN issue.

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Oh no no no. That is nowhere NEAR enough said. Why should Scholar and Summoner be the only ones that need to pay 250 seals to be useful if you've played the other? From now on, let's make it so any class change sets the stats on the class you're going to in the worst possible stat for that class, so you have to reset and manually set them every time.