Tanking A2

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Originally Posted by Sapphidia

I tend to worry I come across as too know-it-all or high-and-mighty in many of my long blurb posts here, so figured I'd leave the "well a lot of pug healers you meet are probably going to be complete trash" to be read between the lines and try and be more productive! ^^

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Fair enough.

If the tank is dying here and using cool downs it is 100% a healer issue. Has very little to do with the tanks at that point and I've seen full str tanks use no cool downs what so ever under the same conditions and still make it thru fairly comfortably. As much as people like to blame tanks the amount of bad healers in this game has increased substantially and it is insanely obvious in Alexander and very much so in A4.

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Originally Posted by Meow9000

I went back into a2 this time grabbing south adds and everytime it got to the last phase the dolls just kept fucking raping me. I saved every cd for those two and I was still dying through Vengeance, foresight, intuition + awareness, convalescence + thrill, berserk + blood bath and inner beast. I'm running full STR and am sitting around 16k HP at 182 and just getting wrecked. I don't wanna blame the healer or dps but idk what else I can do to survive these two dolls besides going with full VIT

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As an option, you could have a melee DPS Limit Break a doll and kill it outright once you have established hate on it. Take it out of the equation and coast to victory. There's no reason to only use LB on the widow other than ending the fight faster.

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Originally Posted by ElanVelius

As an option, you could have a melee DPS Limit Break a doll and kill it outright once you have established hate on it. Take it out of the equation and coast to victory. There's no reason to only use LB on the widow other than ending the fight faster.

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I want to try that. :D That sounds like a great idea!

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Originally Posted by Dante_V

I've seen full str tanks use no cool downs what so ever under the same conditions and still make it thru fairly comfortably.

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Just the fact that a tank doesn't use any CDs in itself is a problem. Even a good healer can't save a bad tank that gets smashed for more than 4/5 of his/her hp in the time it takes to even get a cast a heal out. If the tank dies, he dies, and its his/her fault for not giving time for the healers to even press their oh-**** buttons.

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Originally Posted by Flipside101

Just the fact that a tank doesn't use any CDs in itself is a problem. Even a good healer can't save a bad tank that gets smashed for more than 4/5 of his/her hp in the time it takes to even get a cast a heal out. If the tank dies, he dies, and its his/her fault for not giving time for the healers to even press their oh-**** buttons.

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Agree, tanks need to use cooldowns, it helps out the healers so ya.

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Originally Posted by Flipside101

That's definitely part of the problem. DO NOT assume that the healers are good enough for you to tank in full str accessories.

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As a DRK Tank, I agree with this. My Left side is i200 Weapon, Body, Belt, i190 everything else, and I have 3 sets of gear for my accessories:

• "Maintank DRK" - 4 Fending, 1 Slaying, all i190, which I use when Pugging Alex.
• "Offtank DRK" - Full Slaying, mix of 180 and 190 accs, which I use when running Expert Roulette unless I end up with a really bad healer, and
• "Savage DRK" - 3 Fending, 2 Slaying, all i190, and designed to give me just enough accuracy for AS3 with Baked Pipira Pira (I use BTR on AS1, and will likely swap to BPP in AS2, tho I'll test with BTR first since I have 607 accuracy before food, and BTR is a lot cheaper).

--Erim Nelhah