Can I get a dev response please... Crafted battle gear.

As it stands I desynth it or convert it, in both cases I lose 5 materia and get back minimal mats or only one materia, so ultimately its a lose lose to even craft it in the first place. The "obtained" gear at least gives me something when I'm done with it. The crafted gear isn't even good for glamour, as there are plenty of purchasable sets that look identical to crafted sets, and those are easier to just buy too. Please SE, crafting is great for housing and the new airship crafting, but please make it serve to better battle content too in a way that is not wasted once its finished.

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Originally Posted by Katlyna

Too many foolish people complained they were linked to raid drops... unfortunately that is ACTUALLY a good design.

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Wasn't 4-star the only one that was tied to raids (and old raids at that)? 2 and 3-star battle gear mats were just from Tomestones, which hardly constitutes raid content.

... you know this just dawned on me and I forgot to mention it, and I know its a "duh Maelor" thing, but even if they would add a few crafted things near the top, that have an appearance that can ONLY be gotten from that crafted item, then we could glamour them over the hive or gordian or whatever if we wanted to. This way crafting would still be "needed" to make a unique item, and it would be powerful so as not to hold us back, and crafters would be "needed" again for the glamouring part. Case in point, the wootz scimitar or shamshir or whatever that sword was. I dont think anything looked like it, it was unique and if you want your weapon to look like it you NEED to craft. Maybe just some newer recipes that look like nothing else?

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Originally Posted by Alahra

Wasn't 4-star the only one that was tied to raids (and old raids at that)? 2 and 3-star battle gear mats were just from Tomestones, which hardly constitutes raid content.

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I should probably have stated they were linked to adventuring drops (raid token etc) which people argued was devaluating the foraging drops. But the problem there was the foraging drops were too easy to get (not that adventuring drops were part of the process).

Now the problem with crafting battlegear being relevant is just ugly. The gear needs to be relevant and have similar difficulty in acquisition to equal adventuring drops (or somewhat harder... but not drastically). To make the battle crafted gear irreverent just causes the economy to be terrible (which is what is happening right now).

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Originally Posted by Katlyna

I should probably have stated they were linked to adventuring drops (raid token etc) which people argued was devaluating the foraging drops. But the problem there was the foraging drops were too easy to get (not that adventuring drops were part of the process).

Now the problem with crafting battlegear being relevant is just ugly. The gear needs to be relevant and have similar difficulty in acquisition to equal adventuring drops (or somewhat harder... but not drastically). To make the battle crafted gear irreverent just causes the economy to be terrible (which is what is happening right now).

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Don't get me wrong, I agree. I just couldn't think of anything in particular that was that hard to get (outside of the desynth materials for 4-stars).

Their not going to make crafted battle gear useful in raids because it was a stupid and bad design to make a full set that can be over melded in to clear the latest high tier raid in the first week.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Their not going to make crafted battle gear useful in raids because it was a stupid and bad design to make a full set that can be over melded in to clear the latest high tier raid in the first week.

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... which is what time-gating was for - except they overshot even that and made it so that combat gear won't be seen until the end of the patch cycle - so why make it even worse on top of that?

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

... which is what time-gating was for - except they overshot even that and made it so that combat gear won't be seen until the end of the patch cycle - so why make it even worse on top of that?

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Because not every one will spend over a mil on crafted crap that will be irrelevant in the next patch with higher level gear. Also IV noticed much less RMT activity on my server and less useful crafted gear probly has something to do with it.

Besides you get tokens from savage now so you can at lest be getting a piece or 2 every week.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Because not every one will spend over a mil on crafted crap that will be irrelevant in the next patch with higher level gear.

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I just don't understand this argument. No one has ever forced you go spend millions of gil on gear and materia. If you were able to and wanted to, then more power to you. For the people who wanted to min/max their stats and thought it was worth the investment, they had the option to. Now that option is gone.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Also IV noticed much less RMT activity on my server and less useful crafted gear probly has something to do with it.

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Good for you. Meanwhile, on Ultros, nothing has changed.

The real issue is materia. Since you can make gear better through materia it has to have a slightly lower stat rating to compensate. If we just did away with the materia system, standard crafted gear could be way better and cheaper.