Healer LB animation lock.

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Originally Posted by DarkerOrange

If everyone but you is dead then a healer LB3 ain't gonna save you :P

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I think that's kind of the point; People want it to be able to regain momentum for the party.

Personally, I disagree. I think it would be too OP if it acted like a legitimate second chance. I think it functions well, in the sense that it can save a party if everyone plays perfectly in some cases. Besides, having to use Healer LB3 is a red flag from the start anyway.

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Originally Posted by BroodingFicus

I think Akyio means that you don't really have the time to wait in some situations. If most/all of your party is dead and especially if aggro is on you, you cannot take the time to run around and find a safe place.

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In that situation you probably won't get it off anyway before you are dead. A Healer with boss aggro will die almost instantly. You want to be using it before everyone else has died when you see there is no way to recover the damage done through normal means. Tank and one DPS alive plus you with low mana for example. Even if you get the other Healer or a SMN up you will struggle to keep anyone else alive and res plus the time it takes will eat away at the time you have before enrage so pop the LB3 then protect when people are up.

It seems that everyone in this thread somewhat agree that the current LB3 is either so weak, or so situational, as to be currently useless. The answer seems to be to buff the LB3 to be closer to the PVP raise ability or to completely scrap it altogether and introduce something new and more useful.

If you want to look at it this way - it is seldom used by anyone because the rest of the team usually keeps limit breaks for other types (eg caster). Surely the best way to balance the jobs would be to introduce a limit break that could be of more use in more situations.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

It seems that everyone in this thread somewhat agree that the current LB3 is either so weak, or so situational, as to be currently useless.

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It really is. SE loves doing DPS LBs, and that's fine, but for tanks and healers it's pretty much an afterthought, so much so that it's just not a thing we even get to touch unless everyone else is dead in the healer's case or it's mandated by the fight for the tank.

Maybe they should redo healer LB's to give some method to cheese a mechanic on a difficult encounter or 3 seconds of invulnerability.

Thinking about it, there's no reason why the Healer limit break 3 isn't a damage one. Everyone else gets to do damage so why can't healers call upon the Elementals (for WHM), the Nymian Marines (for SCH) and whatever the Astrologians encounter in their storyline to come and defend them by doing damage whilst healing up only those team members still alive.

That way it would be more useful in non-wipe situations but not be overpowered. It would also stay well within existing lore.

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Originally Posted by Vlady

Maybe they should redo healer LB's to give some method to cheese a mechanic on a difficult encounter or 3 seconds of invulnerability.

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They specifically changed Perfect Dodge and Manawall for that.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

Thinking about it, there's no reason why the Healer limit break 3 isn't a damage one. Everyone else gets to do damage so why can't healers call upon the Elementals (for WHM), the Nymian Marines (for SCH) and whatever the Astrologians encounter in their storyline to come and defend them by doing damage whilst healing up only those team members still alive.

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I wouldn't really want a damage LB I'm happy having a second chance card to play if things go south It's just depressing when you manage to get everyone up just for them to die 5 seconds later because they are so weak one hit is almost all their HP. The Healer role is all about saving people when a lot of damage is going out and keeping them in the fight so the LB should be by role they just need to rethink and tweak it a bit. Not that I expect it any time soon since they are so obsessed with making pretty DPS LB's.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

I wouldn't really want a damage LB I'm happy having a second chance card to play if things go south It's just depressing when you manage to get everyone up just for them to die 5 seconds later because they are so weak one hit is almost all their HP. The Healer role is all about saving people when a lot of damage is going out and keeping them in the fight so the LB should be by role they just need to rethink and tweak it a bit. Not that I expect it any time soon since they are so obsessed with making pretty DPS LB's.

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That's the problem though, it's currently useless and it's very, very, very unlikely they'll make it useful because too many people would complain it's overpowered. I'm a SCH and I'd dearly love a decent healing LB3 but it just isn't going to happen where we get raise, HP & MP restore (even if just 15%) & the essential invulnerability (to counteract the animation lock). That's what we'd need to make the current version useful.

well, there ARE uses for it (no thats not me, just a video i once found)

but yeah, some days ago had a bad group in A1, almost wiped on a rocket fail, the other healer raized me instead of LB3 for some reason, i went LB3..... and got laser in my face from both bosses while in the animation lock afterward, rip me >_< (we wiped soon after anyway)
this animationlock could at least be a bit shorter, its stupid to jut stand there for like 10 seconds