Character Creator Customization upgarde.

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Originally Posted by DragonFlyy

There was only one customized character in Saints Row. Memory requirements also extend to all the other people around you each with a slightly different customization.

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DragonFlyy has the right of it. I used to be on PS3, and its memory limitations gave me pop-in textures on characters while in parties and ommitted most people from my screen entirely. To put it simply, I don't think the PS3 would be able to handle it.

That being said, I'm all for more customization options, especially the horn/scale options on the Au Ra.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Would this be a bad time to point out saints row 3 and 4 came out on the ps3?

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Apples and oranges.

MMOs have lot's of players and lots of particle effect from those players so it adds huge amounts of processing for the CPU and GPU.

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

Apples and oranges.

MMOs have lot's of players and lots of particle effect from those players so it adds huge amounts of processing for the CPU and GPU.

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So if and when the ps3 gets dropped, can we then expand on it?

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Originally Posted by Kallera

So if and when the ps3 gets dropped, can we then expand on it?

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While the PS4 is a step up it's not as great as they [Sony] want you to think it is. It's basically a (below) budget PC. It seems most from Japan play console, and I'd wager most on PS3 so this mythical end of life for PS3 isn't going to happen, at least not for a long time. There's also those PCs, in particular laptops too.

As some have said, sliders cause issues with clipping etc. and we already have that to small degrees. They can increase customisation with new hair styles, more makeup options and possibly new faces too. All these would not effect armor.

The devs have spoken to this issue and why they are hesitant to add more customization options to character creation and while platform limitations (ps3,ps4, etc.) may play a part in it, their main reason is character data size and having to transfer that across the internet. The larger the amount of data points that make up a character, the more data has to be transfered between the client (your computer) and the server and the more data that has to be transfered the longer all of that will take which then results in worse performance of the game no matter the platform.

More options can be added to the existing points of customization such as new hairstyles, eyeshapes, etc. , but not so much with completely new forms of customization such as hip width sliders or what have you.

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

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Now that's a new one. I've heard PS3 Limitations and "core systems would need to be changed", but not "The transfer of data would be too much and slow things down".

The "core systems" worry me more than PS3 limitations.

We know what the ps3 can (not) handle but "core system?" at the very least it might have been designed/constructed with the PS3 in mind.

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Originally Posted by Jatoi

I don't expect sliders if they did more with customization, but at least give us more hair and face options ( and not lock horns to Au Ra faces ), perhaps even chest sizes. I for one wouldn't mind being completely flat.

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This. I don't really expect SE to go full-on slider-style customization (though at the very least they should give everyone muscle sliders...). But I do want to see far more preset options, on all customization levels.

Character creation is one of this game's weakest points. :/ They'd do well to improve it.

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

The devs have spoken to this issue and why they are hesitant to add more customization options to character creation and while platform limitations (ps3,ps4, etc.) may play a part in it, their main reason is character data size and having to transfer that across the internet. The larger the amount of data points that make up a character, the more data has to be transfered between the client (your computer) and the server and the more data that has to be transfered the longer all of that will take which then results in worse performance of the game no matter the platform.

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While I'm okay with just more preset options, this is a really silly excuse. SE seems to have so much trouble with things that don't bother any other mmo...

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Originally Posted by Naunet

This. I don't really expect SE to go full-on slider-style customization (though at the very least they should give everyone muscle sliders...). But I do want to see far more preset options, on all customization levels.

Character creation is one of this game's weakest points. :/ They'd do well to improve it.

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I heard that our physics even change with certain armor, which sorta kills the point of customization.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

I heard that our physics even change with certain armor, which sorta kills the point of customization.

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Well I mean, you don't really expect to see jiggle physics if you're wearing full plate, do you? o.O