SE, thanks you for the awesome new weapons!

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

i dont take their tacky nerdy fat asses seriously on here any way.
theres so much "i know whats better" yet their entire existence contradicts all of their opinions.

the weapons look great and fit in fantastically with the games future.
the game looks boring and un-imaginative now so i cant wait for more. keep it up SE!!

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I don't understand why counter opinions are not accepted, and when someone has a different one they are called names.

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

Are you saying that I bitch about everything? Because the bow is the single thing I have ever said anything about on these forums. I have supported everything - period.

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Nah, I wasn't referring to anyone at all; just musing about how things are heating up around here and suddenly everything needs no less than 5 threads about the same subject to discuss it.

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Speaking of Bowharp...why is it not on the Ifrit weapon since that job is becoming bard? Or is the harp a secondary "weapon" which changes the look of the bow, meaning that all bows can become a bowharp?

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If it was, indeed, part harp - that's still a long way away. Ifrit is coming long before jobs are, and we can't very well get an item for a fully accomplished job as a reward for something that comes out before the very foundation of jobs is even laid. I think people's perceptions of time are waaaay off, here. Jobs are a long way away. Ifrit is tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by miqokini

This is Final Fantasy, in case you forgot. Not Final Reality.

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The ironic thing about this statement, is they model a lot of Final Fantasy games to be realistic in ways, as realism is what creates immersion for many.

So yeah it is a Fantasy game, but there's nothing wrong with Realism (which already exists in XIV in some instances, just by the fact they Mocap :P)

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Originally Posted by miqokini

This is Final Fantasy, in case you forgot. Not Final Reality.

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You know what?
I'm sick of this. Fantasy is relative. You can have realistic fantasies like Game of Thrones and then you have stuff like Zelda.

I've come to terms with the equipment and I accept them as an addition to the game, but don't denounce realism and believability in design because you feel it isn't fantasy enough. There's room enough in the world for all sorts of styles in all genres.

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

I don't understand why counter opinions are not accepted, and when someone has a different one they are called names.

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i just realized it was kinda harsh and could cause an argument so i retract what i said, it sucked of me.

I think they are sweet. Just like in FFXI, the avatar weapons won't mean anything in a couple years. Make 'em exciting while they're hot.

Pun intended.

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I think they are sweet. Just like in FFXI, the avatar weapons won't mean anything in a couple years. Make 'em exciting while they're hot.

Pun intended.

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hahah
but what avatar weapons?

You know... Ifrit's Bow... Garuda's Dagger, Shiva's..Um..Claws? From the primal fights. Carbuncle's Pole..lol.

oh yeah, i dont remember those weapons being too popular.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

You know what?
I'm sick of this. Fantasy is relative. You can have realistic fantasies like Game of Thrones and then you have stuff like Zelda.

I've come to terms with the equipment and I accept them as an addition to the game, but don't denounce realism and believability in design because you feel it isn't fantasy enough. There's room enough in the world for all sorts of styles in all genres.

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Right but at the same time, people should be able to accept things outside the realm of our universe's possibility because it is Fantasy. It doesn't have to follow the rules of our world, that's the point. It might and there is a certain level of believability sure but things can be a bit unrealistic and still fit in with Fantasy.