whoa whoa whoa slow down

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Lets remember guys how was on 2.0? emmmm from 1 to 90 xD
from that point was 20 ilvl each 2 patches
This is no different.

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Yes but those patches weren't less than 2-3 weeks apart. They were 2-3 months apart. Folks had time to gear up (some on multiple jobs) before the next patch released. Right now, I have almost no sense of accomplishment. Just this constant pressure to rush to the next set of gear. I barely got to enjoy the first set or the second, Now there's a 3rd.... and 4th.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

same as in 2.0

ilvl 55 -> 95

now 160 -> 210

its basically nearly the same jump

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no no no no! 2.0 was 60->90, you had only one weapon to 95.... seriously what we can read here is scary.

60 was from Amdapor and wanderer, 70 was the phylo (old darklight set from the V1), 80 did come with the 2.1 and 90 from Myth and BC.

yeah the pace of ilevel is kinda too fast, instead to work to give us more choice, 2.0-2.1 was the best period, why that? because people had choice between gears without being forced to do raid. instead to work on this and add another activity outside raiding for make people gather another gears, they have make a freaking line.

we did grind fractal and neverreap for the law and equip ourself for do alexander NM, now we need to regrind them for the esotheric *sighs*.

Yoshida and it team did misunderstood something, grind from stuff is what we do, that a given.... but what we wanted was not get more grind in the same activity... but more diversity! not some gears that will be outdated too fast.

oh by the way, people no one wonder, what will drop the 24 man raid? because if that continue like this... we will get something like a i180-190 gears from it... *sighs*

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Lets remember guys how was on 2.0? emmmm from 1 to 90 xD
from that point was 20 ilvl each 2 patches
This is no different.

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nope, some player was already full i70 from V1, people tend to forget that the 2.0 is called like this because is only a major update of the game.

another point if they keep the rythm they us, we will see this for the 3.2:
- dungeon set
- uncaped token set (esotheric)
- alexander part 2 NM set (probably i220)
- caped token set (i230)
- Alexander part 2 savage (probably i240)

why this range of ilevel? because they will give a way to obtain the upgrade item from the 24 man raid, making people get 210, then what the point to make an alexander NM that drop an ilevel already covered for 6 month? people will not do it without them carrot

ps: yoshida himself have said that the gap of ilevel will be greater in heavensward...

It's going to take a long time before people are full ilvl200+ and probably longer for ilvl210. .

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Originally Posted by Mellaz

Off topic but do you mind telling me from what anime that gif you have is from? It looks funny XD

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I think it is Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic

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Originally Posted by Rombus

It's going to take a long time before people are full ilvl200+ and probably longer for ilvl210. .

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people have 5 month before the release of the new tiers.... then equip them main jobs full i210 is not impossible... some will even have 2 jobs equiped (since they will get some from raid)

It's going to take a long time before people are full ilvl200+ and probably longer for ilvl210. .

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

no no no no! 2.0 was 60->90, you had only one weapon to 95

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Um, what? When you hit 50 your last few pieces of AF gear were i55 and also Wanderer's Palace dropped i55 gear. You know, the very first level 50 dungeon people went to? Yeah sorry, it was i55 :P

you simply don't read i guess, it will be done far before the 3.2 is release, like it was always done before.... long, not really some people will connect for do 1-2 dungeon a day and still get them full gears, the point is.... do this player enjoy what they do? because that the point, do this gated grind is fun? no obviously, why that? because you have no fun to redo content that don't change whatever you do!

the principale weakness of FF14 is the lack of replayable content... loot don't make a content replayable nor enjoyable. until they understand this, the problem will remain there.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Um, what? When you hit 50 your last few pieces of AF gear were i55 and also Wanderer's Palace dropped i55 gear. You know, the very first level 50 dungeon people went to? Yeah sorry, it was i55 :P

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the drop of wanderer palace was i55 you are right, but amdapor was 60 i'm sure of this. they did change the table of drop later same for pharos sirius that was i60. but that not the point, by chaining amdapor (doable with the AF) you was gaining phylo and i60 gears then....

This pacing is almost identical to 2.0's with the primary difference being smaller gaps in between tiers (originally we jumped from i70 to i90 and it wasn't till some months later we got i80) and equipment being upgradable from the outset instead of being something introduced later. Honestly, all these tiers that are all obtained in different ways is a good thing. It makes it easier to gear up multiple classes at once. The only people this should pose a problem to are those players who want all of their classes in the best gear immediately instead of adhering to a trickle down policy.

SE said a whole bunch of times that they wanted to advance item levels a little faster this time so they could insert content in between item level tiers a little better. So now they're doing that, why are people surprised?