Why don't we have the ability to make specific number purchases from the market?

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Originally Posted by DkDerek

The problem isn't that we cant buy one item out of a stack. The problem is, the community doesn't list single items. Why? For a couple of reasons: We have a maximum of 20 listings per retainer. If I have 400 of an item to move, I'll be there for 6 months selling 1 at a time. Also, listing an item requires like 36 different menus. It would take me another 6 months just to simply list those items. I get undercut? Another 6 months to change the price on those.

I hate to bring it up....but WoW does it best.

Sell in stacks of:

Price per item :

I'd say remove the 20 posting limit, but. We all know how the servers are. If they add 5 more slots the game will break.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

I have to agree... they really should simply add a "Price per Item" option to AH and allow you to choose the quantity purchased.

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I Disagree. My experience comes from real life Auctions.

People prefer buying in quantities. The game supports per-unit prices by allowing you to define a quantity (even '1'). If I need 8 X, I look for a seller selling 8 at once, not 2 sellers selling 99 at a lower price.

There is no desire to piece-meal a quantity out because instead of someone "needs 50 X for 99gil" it becomes "buy 1 X 50 times where X is 2gil or below"

When there is a fee per unit price, it adds up. It's often better to NPC items that sell below the NPC price than to waste a selling slot with it.


The reverse is also true, I can buy the stack of 99 if I can afford it, use the 8 items I need and then sell the remaining 91 at the price I purchased it at, but I'm doing that at a much greater loss if the next seller decides to undercut that price.

For that reason it's better to buy the quantity you need at once, even if the per unit price of that item is higher.

A smarter MB would have market-maker NPC's that represent the NPC's in the game, and actually adjust the NPC sell-to price based on MB demand. Thus, players who simply try to dump items, would have the items immediately bought by the MM NPC's and sold at the current best price.

In games that support per unit and per lot pricing, or auctions, it's often a super-frustrating experience to have "good deals" disappear within seconds due to people manipulating the game market.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

Because when I need 2 of an item to have someone craft something for me I really want to buy a stack of 99 for several hundred thousand only to have to undercut to resell them in a timely manner.

Drastically undercut.

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Just look down the list if someone sell it for less amount. And if the whole list is full with stacks of 99, and the demand seem high on the sell history, buy 1 stack and resell what you not need in stacks of 20 for 15% more.

Something something PS3 limitations something something please look forward to it.

I'd be pretty annoyed if I put up stacks of things and only a small portion of it sold >.>

This is something I particularly enjoy about the Commodities Exchange in WildStar. A player can list a sell order of however many of an item they want (there's a little box where you type in the number), and it tells you the current price though you can change it if you want. A player can place a buy order that a potential seller can use to "sell now", if they want (can be used by buyers to try and get things a bit cheaper - seller gets guaranteed money right away). And if you're browsing the sell orders, you just specify out much of an item you want and at what price, and purchase. If there aren't enough of that item up at that price, the game will tell you, and you can adjust. There are some flaws in the CX user interface, but it works very well for all the items people like to sell in bulk but generally buy in individualized amounts.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

A player can place a buy order that a potential seller can use to "sell now", if they want (can be used by buyers to try and get things a bit cheaper - seller gets guaranteed money right away).

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Hmm, yes
A buy request would be nice in the MB. 1.0 had it too.

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Originally Posted by DkDerek

We all know how the servers are. If they add 5 more slots the game will break.

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I laughed. :)

Indeed, I really would like to have the option to buy just as many as I want, not however many the seller put up. If I need just 3 something, I'm not gonna buy a stack of 99 or 50 or 20 or even 10 of it and massively overpay - because that's what that boils down to, huge prices for too big amount of things one doesn't need. And if someone does go ahead with buying the stack, they are gonna relist the leftover, usually not for more than they purchased it for, so even if not actual undercutting, it's more competition there (and THAT certainly brings faster undercutting).

Consider it this way too though: when do you have more money? If you shift maybe a fewer number of things than you wanted to, not for the money your whole supply would have made - or if you sit on your whole supply only hoping for the sale which never happens? I'd say the first option wins. And it doesn't even make more competition by making the buyers immediately relist the amount they don't need. Heck, I wouldn't even mind if there were separate prices for single item vs whole stack (something that'd probably get shot down by "ps3/hardware/network limitations", but still), but yeah, the market has definitely been missing this option since ARR launched.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

This is something I particularly enjoy about the Commodities Exchange in WildStar.

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My experience with WildStar's system back at launch was this:

I want a full stack of, say, Titanium. Titanium is currently listed at 50 Credits a piece.

Buy 99. "That many aren't available at this price."
Buy 50. "That many aren't available at this price."
Gah, buy 5! "Bought."
Buy 5. "That many aren't available at this price."

WildStar's attempt at making sellers anonymous was TERRIBLE, because buyers ended up sitting there trying desperately to figure out how much was actually for sale at the shown price, with NO IDEA what the next price jump would be. Had someone listed at 51? 60? 500? Would you be able to buy as many as you actually needed?

I would much rather scroll through the Market Board here and look for a listing with a number of items close to what I'm after.

In general, it probably relates to RMT and SE trying to cut down on their taking advantage of things to produce their gil.