Is SE doing anything about these FATE botters?

SE needs to very strict on Botting.
The thing with botting is that if players bot and they know they won't be banned, they tell there FC/friend.... Now MORE players will tempt to bot.
I I know bans will cause SE subscription. But if not dealt with the problem will grow exponentially, and in the end can cause 10s of thousands if dealt with or botting will be the norm.

Just curious... what exactly is wrong with FATE botting? I mean, they don't adversely affect you at all. There's already so many people there that the scaling maxes out, so it's not like they are making FATEs more difficult for you.

I personally don't bot at all, but there really isn't any negative affect on you when someone else does. The only kind of botting I can think of that would be detrimental would be dungeon botting and gather botting. Dungeon botting because it makes it harder to clear the dungeon and gather botting because it gives an unfair advantage to those who do it, since they can effectively gather 24/7.

But there's really nothing wrong with FATE botting. So why complain about it?

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Just curious... what exactly is wrong with FATE botting? I mean, they don't adversely affect you at all. There's already so many people there that the scaling maxes out, so it's not like they are making FATEs more difficult for you.

I personally don't bot at all, but there really isn't any negative affect on you when someone else does. The only kind of botting I can think of that would be detrimental would be dungeon botting and gather botting. Dungeon botting because it makes it harder to clear the dungeon and gather botting because it gives an unfair advantage to those who do it, since they can effectively gather 24/7.

But there's really nothing wrong with FATE botting. So why complain about it?

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The ppl that fate bot are botting in other aspects of the game, spirit bonding, gathering items. the claim that botting odesnt effect others and there is nothing wrong is very ignorant. Botting has negative impacts on economy and community.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieL

SE needs to very strict on Botting.
The thing with botting is that if players bot and they know they won't be banned, they tell there FC/friend.... Now MORE players will tempt to bot.
I I know bans will cause SE subscription. But if not dealt with the problem will grow exponentially, and in the end can cause 10s of thousands if dealt with or botting will be the norm.

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The biggest problem is that the bot is made by the same people who made WoW's and that got so out of hand that people were using it for pve and pvp for perfect rotations completly breaking the game and what would be Frontlines in our game. With the outcome of having to ban 2 million people because of not doing it when it had to be done.

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Originally Posted by VarinaVashai

The ppl that fate bot are botting in other aspects of the game, spirit bonding, gathering items. the claim that botting odesnt effect others and there is nothing wrong is very ignorant. Botting has negative impacts on economy and community.

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Not to mention they're levelling up without doing anything... Which means you end up with those high-level players who never figured out how several of their new skills/spells work....

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Not to mention they're levelling up without doing anything... Which means you end up with those high-level players who never figured out how several of their new skills/spells work....

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To be honest, this already happens with general players grinding fates in mass groups, and with A+S hunts already. Bumped into many a tank with full 180 asuran gear that didn't use any defensive cooldowns in dungeons, blm in similar gear using only fire 1 on group pulls, etc.

I do agree that botting is an issue, specifically the ones that have been used since 1.0 to level all crafting jobs to cap

Just to be clear we're not talking about the folks just plain old regular fate grinding in nthan right? Until they fix 3.0 Fates its the best place to go from 47-53. Some people stick around higher than that even.

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Originally Posted by VarinaVashai

The ppl that fate bot are botting in other aspects of the game, spirit bonding, gathering items. the claim that botting odesnt effect others and there is nothing wrong is very ignorant. Botting has negative impacts on economy and community.

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I really hate people that don't read posts and think before they respond. Let me repost the section of my post that you quoted, that already covers that:

"The only kind of botting I can think of that would be detrimental would be dungeon botting and gather botting. Dungeon botting because it makes it harder to clear the dungeon and gather botting because it gives an unfair advantage to those who do it, since they can effectively gather 24/7."

So yes, I'm aware that some forms of botting are not cool. But none of that applies to FATE botting. FATE botting doesn't hurt anyone. And the response that "high level players won't know what they're doing" is not a valid reason because that's already true of anyone whose sole leveling activity is FATEs.

It's not justifiable. It's an unfair advantage. People are not meant to gain levels, gil, items, company seals without playing the game. As far as impact on legit players, the northern thanalan cluster of organised bots were destroying Fates too quickly for me to get involved, having a negative performance impact where I could not see/target the enemy mob due to it rendering too many player characters in the same position, and there being no down time when the zone is more quiet because the bots do not sleep.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieL

SE needs to very strict on Botting.
The thing with botting is that if players bot and they know they won't be banned, they tell there FC/friend.... Now MORE players will tempt to bot.
I I know bans will cause SE subscription. But if not dealt with the problem will grow exponentially, and in the end can cause 10s of thousands if dealt with or botting will be the norm.

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It's kinda how I am feeling to a point, why should I have to work to gain my clusters or items, level my alt classes when everyone else seems to be allowed to level up while they sleep. Of course I enjoy this game far to much to risk doing something like that but I do find it unfair a lot of these people have zero consequence to it. Even if they are banning people, they don't make it obvious who was banned in game to make the threat of being banned known. We just got a little thread that says X people were banned, yet we look in the server and still see the mobs running around and bots gathering.

Bottom line for me, let it be shown in the game that they are being watched and make people think twice about it. Would help deter to some point I'd wager.