Class Hunting Logs are inefficient EXP gains. Amongst other issues..

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Originally Posted by LoreChief

There is no point at the current state of the game to prolong the amount of time it takes to get to 50. The MSQ is still the threshold that needs to be passed for first-time 50's. After that is complete there is no reason to make leveling take significantly longer or neuter EXP income sources just because it used to have value. It does not anymore, and should be updated to be relevant. We don't need more outdated systems that get left in the dirt.

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if you take longer leveling a class to 50 after you got your first class to 50, then there's something seriously wrong with you. Especially now that the armoury bonus has been increased etc. There are people that have 6 level 60's by now and you're still crying about not getting a 2nd or 3rd class to 50, blaming the hunting log exp for it? Maybe this game is after all not made for you. Sorry. Move on.

Took me less than a week to level my MNK to 50... I used the hunting log to rush 15 then ran dungeons. The hunting log supplemented my XP as I went and it helped push me along.

The log was never meant to give a lot of XP... was meant as a small boost. Sometimes it is easier than hoping a level-appropriate fate is up in your area. And after the Atma grind pre-buff... I'm bloody sick of fates, so it serves as an alternative.

The Hunting Log is amazing for lower levels, boosting your way to 15 as swiftly as possible, and it's very easy to complete the first two logs. The experience it yields does fall off hard later on, but it's still good filler if you're in queue or something

Can it not not be EXP : entertainment instead of EXP : time sometimes?

Not that hunting is the absolute pinnacle of fun, but it is more of a monotony breaker than fates and dungeons, and made fairly easy to ignore if wished. A slower but more sane way to fill some of the gaps that sidequests can't fill. You get reminded of a wider variety of content in a shorter time. Sometimes efficiency needs to be put aside for the possibility of difference or we'll never be able to climb out of the robotic "same time, same reward, same difficulty" trend that kills MMOs and the spirit of their playerbase even in PvE, turning every activity into the same activity, offering no gratification to the player besides those that can be quantified numerically.

It's the efficiency mindset why we don't have anything interesting happen during the trash phase of dungeons. It's upsetting that there are few players who wish to experience an emotional return from a game until all other avenues of progress are dried up, even at the top level. If efficiency was the most important thing in the case of hunting, they'd probably end up making all hunting logs identical past level 20 too.

It takes like 10minutes to do Rank 1 or Rank 2 hunting log, maybe 15-20min to do a Rank 4 or 5. With teleports and mounts and companion, it's very quick filler, especially between queues. It's also great for when you're within 25-15% of leveling up, completing a rank also gives a large noticeable chunk of EXP. Less noticeable 35+, but not insignificant.

What? I literally just started playing this game a month or so ago and I do all the hunting logs for classes and jobs. Part of that is because filling my log out is extremely satisfying to me, but at lower levels, they were worth quite a bit of experience for killing 3-4 mobs on my way to a quest. They're meant to be a supplement to what you're doing. Not to be the entire way you level.

If you (like I did) simply level up, then stop and say "Hey, I need to do the Hunting Log" then went out and bust through a bunch of levels in the thing ... then you are missing the point.

The point is a minor bump as you go about doing your normal stuff. Find that you're in an area with Hunting Log mobs? Take a few minutes and kill them. You're not supposed to stop at level 25 and go back to do the level 20 through 30 logs all at once.

Granted, going and knocking a bunch out all at once is how most people do the things, because they're not very well thought out in terms of where people are going to be at a given level ... but just up and taking an hour or two out of your time to go focus solely upon porting here to kill a few mobs, then porting there to kill a few mobs, and so on, to knock them out was not the intent nor the idea behind them. All you're doing, TC, is complaining that the way most people do (or think to do and decide is too much work and choose not to do) is not the way that they were intended to be done.

BTW, 2 mil for all ten levels worth, is only 200k exp per level. That's around half what a good exp dungeon run gives. If people are not interested in doing them now because FATEs are so much better, and people are not interested in dungeon runs because FATEs are better, what incentive is there for people to do these even under those conditions?

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Originally Posted by LoreChief

This becomes more obvious when you get past the 1st/2nd rank, and the accumulated experience for traveling around the world to kill various mobs nets you less than half of a single level by the time you are able to successfully down all of the listed monsters.

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Are you just exaggerating, or did you get up into your mid 40's or so, realize you were behind, and then go back and do the 3rd and 4th ranks of hunting logs when you were way overleveled for them? Because on-level, they do much better than that. I just did the 4th rank of my CNJ hunting log the last couple days (at levels 38 and 39, so above the level of at least most of the mobs in that tier), and got a full level out of it, from near the beginning of 38 up to 40% of the way through 39.

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Originally Posted by LoreChief

The hunting log was designed to familiarize the player with the various maps and give them something to do that was more interesting/rewarding than side quests.

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I'd agree with the first of those, but it was never intended to be more interesting or rewarding than sidequests. It's filler for when you don't have enough sidequests for your level, since there's very few sidequests in this game and they can only be done once, whereas you get a separate hunting log for every class you advance.

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Originally Posted by stuscott

Class hunting logs are for classes, not jobs - hence the new jobs wouldn't have class hunting logs, since they don't have base classes.

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By that logic, there would be no way to level the new jobs either, since jobs in this game do not earn XP. Only classes do. Of course, that really doesn't apply because the new "jobs" are in fact classes. SE decided they no longer liked separating them out, so they made this new hybrid version that's both a class and a job rolled into one.

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Originally Posted by FallenVanguard

The Hunting Log is amazing for lower levels, boosting your way to 15 as swiftly as possible, and it's very easy to complete the first two logs. The experience it yields does fall off hard later on, but it's still good filler if you're in queue or something

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If I want a class to 15, I ask a FC mate and 20 min later it's done.