Please consider changing Gauss Barrel/Wanderer's Minuet

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Originally Posted by Zyrusticae

Funny you say that, because that's reality for all of the melee DPS jobs.

Melee downtime barely even exists in this game as of now.

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Oh how your party must hate you as a melee eating aoe

The key here is freely move, Bard was able to move w/e they wanted and always be in range and dpsing full speed with a very easy rotation. Melee make no such claim. To be fair, thats why one of my main jobs was bard. As it stands, Bards and machinists need its mobility back as a staple of their job, but they need incentives on group support so they actually sing/machinisting.

Like weaken the songs but take away the damage penalty. Then tune their damage to be in line with a support type role. Then give a cooldown to give them the burst needed by some mechanics.
Like a new ability: Silent but Deadly, stops songs, adds cast times and increases damage dealt by x amount for 30 seconds. 4 minute cooldown.

Yeah the thing is the devs only brought up how they're considering slightly buffing Minuet. It needs more than a slight buff and they did not even address all the problems MCH has in the least. Hell, MCH has it worse than BRD in literally every category except maybe opening burst- but not a word about fixing their worse TP/MP regen, their underpowered debuffs, their low potencies, their janky 1-2-3 combo, or their awful shared-cooldown skills that exist to just to fill space in the spellbook.

I'm not using Gauss Barrel anymore. I don't care if it buffed my damage by 300%; I picked a bard, and now a machinist, because the freedom of movement was unique to them.

If I wanted to be stationary and have cast times, I'd be a Black Mage and actually do decent dps.

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Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2

It's already being considered guys, lmao. Go look at the dev tracker.

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Really? because last I saw they was talking about buffing it, not taking it away.

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Originally Posted by Vyshan

I'm not using Gauss Barrel anymore. I don't care if it buffed my damage by 300%; I picked a bard, and now a machinist, because the freedom of movement was unique to them.

If I wanted to be stationary and have cast times, I'd be a Black Mage and actually do decent dps.

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You aren't the only one. I'm not using it, and half the BRD and MCH I see aren't using it either. I'm sure SE sees the fail that is WM/GB not being utilized

Nope, cant agree with OP. I like WM and the new mechanics behind it. If they want a mobile class again make MCH mobile, it makes more sense for them anyway given their weapons and the 'drop and forget' bots they use for buffs. No point in having both rDPS classes be the same. Whose genius idea was that?

WM needs a major buff to damage to bring us into stationary rDPS numbers but other than that I hope WM stays as is. The whole idea behind sacrificing mobility is to balance us for more DPS... its currently doing the opposite. Also quit trying to pigeon-hole BRD into a role that doesnt exist!

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Originally Posted by TessaJalloh

only put the barrel on for gauss round and then take it back off again.

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Tbh, ricochet can do some nice damage, even single target since it'll hit it twice. Fully buffed, I've been hitting around 4.3k ricochets on bosses.

I'm not saying mch is the best damage ever, I just feel from my own experience using it, that a lot of people just want to pew pew and not use half their abilities and expect to hit harder than all the other jobs. Tbh, the last few expert runs I've done, paired up with either nins, blms or mnks, if I buff myself and use other abilities, I've been killing much quicker than either of those 3. Certain adds that take the other jobs a good ~10 seconds to kill, I've 1 shotted with ricochet. Last boss of fractal? I killed 3/4 of the adds before the nin did. It's all about using what you're given and not expecting to do amazing damage by hitting 123

1. Give us back auto attack or increase WM to 40%
2. Boost the damage ratings on our weapons and/or have WM also give a DET/DEX bonus
3. Make WM instant cast

All or some combination of those things is necessary. I don't mind popping WM but right now it's a "put it on, burst damage, take it off unless you are AOEing" kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by Wavaryen

Really? because last I saw they was talking about buffing it, not taking it away.

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If you cannot learn to use it wisely, you cannot expect to get far with any class in this game.

It was proven to be a DPS loss IN WM. (I already tested this myself, compared to a 860 dummy parse with WM on, 930~960 without.)
It's a good song in my opinion.

You all either need to "l2p" or just deal with it. Honestly. It's not that hard to adapt to new situations.

Sorry, I'm just tired of all the bards that aren't 60 and are complaining on the forums. Level it to 60, then come back. It's different when you have gear.

Goddamn. (' - ' /

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Originally Posted by Kayote

Nope, cant agree with OP. I like WM and the new mechanics behind it. If they want a mobile class again make MCH mobile, it makes more sense for them anyway given their weapons and the 'drop and forget' bots they use for buffs. No point in having both rDPS classes be the same. Whose genius idea was that?

WM needs a major buff to damage to bring us into stationary rDPS numbers but other than that I hope WM stays as is. The whole idea behind sacrificing mobility is to balance us for more DPS... its currently doing the opposite. Also quit trying to pigeon-hole BRD into a role that doesnt exist!

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Or you could just play a caster?