Response about MCH complaints?

Glad I'm not the only one that feels that's the DPS for MCH low. I switched that to my main and got it to 60. But after playing Bard since day one 2.0, MCH feels really slow; and without procs popping there's a huge loss in DPS. I like the class and all but it does need a fix.

So sad I'm lv 52 I like the MCH but the dps sucks :c I was hoping it was getting better on top to lv 60, but there's so much disgust toward the job now :c

I have a feeling mch will be getting auto booted in alex raid, the dps is just awful.

I don't profess to be any kind of Machinist expert at all, especially after not even 2 full weeks, but in regards to the OP's comment:

If you're just spamming Split Shot waiting on procs, you're doing it wrong. I mean, I'm sure no one does that, but still, you're not without options by far.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I don't profess to be any kind of Machinist expert at all, especially after not even 2 full weeks, but in regards to the OP's comment:

If you're just spamming Split Shot waiting on procs, you're doing it wrong. I mean, I'm sure no one does that, but still, you're not without options by far.

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They do when both reload and quick reload is on cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Adventica6

I have a feeling mch will be getting auto booted in alex raid, the dps is just awful.

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I hope each and every jerk who does this find themselves face-to-face with a GM and given a long stretch in the penalty box.

sadly we don't really know if the return we do reach the dev, even if it reach them do they feel the need to answer us?
more important, where are the moderator of the european or us forum? in europe and usa? meaning they need to take all the information and send them to yoshida after translate them.... do they do it daily? weekly?

i means yoshida and it team are japanese and most of them don't talk english (i guess) then outside the japanese forum that they can read... they need to wait the us and eu moderator to translate them our feedback. i don't say that the us and eu moderator don't do them jobs, far from it. but i feel the setup for this is bad. the lag between what the japanese receive and what we receive can often be extremely long. then who know if the inverse are not true too?

that something i really want to know now, how is the setup for the moderator of the forum? because soo far, i have the feeling that our complain are dead letter on a lot of subject. and it's scary in a way, because the game grows more and more outside japan territory.... and we are still treated like second zone people. it's unhealthy for the communication and dev of the game that is played worldwide.

in other game you often have sub forum for each class with a moderator dedicated for it, allowing them to be able to gather efficiently the feedback of the community. ok here with time it will be impossible to do it. but a moderator for each role can be a nice add to the management of the forum. some moderator that talk with each other and transfert as fast as possible the information between us and the dev. in the two sense.

the trouble of a jobs can be a fun killer and often drive people out of a game, it's not something that must be underestimate.

MCH might be weak by now but even without buffs it will still probably be desirable in raids for TP/MP regen, BRD as well, and to be honest with how "intermediate" the current hardest content is, I'd rather stay out of a group that is SO worried about an optimal composition that they have to plan roles/jobs around what bullshit they read on Reddit for something as simple as Ravioli EX. Players who take raiding semi-seriously are far less likely to buy into stigma crap like that, obviously bleeding-edge will be running what they believe is the absolute best, but bleeding-edge is a small percentile anyway.

The players who exclude MCH are underconfident about the group's DPS, can't afford the naturally-no-matter-how-good-you-are lower DPS, etc.
I honestly don't believe a solid raiding group would care too much about silly stigmas like that with 3 other DPS in the group pulling more than enough weight, and maybe even tanks/healers pitching in too.

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Originally Posted by aabe

The players who exclude MCH are underconfident about the group's DPS, can't afford the naturally-no-matter-how-good-you-are lower DPS, etc.
I honestly don't believe a solid raiding group would care too much about silly stigmas like that with 3 other DPS in the group pulling more than enough weight, and maybe even tanks/healers pitching in too.

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The thing is a solid raiding group is not that common to find, especially when most groups are somehow still stuck on BisEX.

Bismark being a huge DPS check was a slap to the face to every MCH and BRD out there, because groups are consistently failing it and they are getting frustrated and will optimise their group's DPS even if it means removing blackmages and summoners as well (AND I SAW THIS MANY TIMES).

Hell, my own group that cleared Bismark was 3 ninjas and a monk. That's gotta say something.

Hello

I'm playing MCH and BRD. I have killed Ravana and Bis, Extreme both, a lot of times right now.

In my opinion, BRD is ok currently, I mean, BRD does a good DPS (BRD isn't top DPS if the others DPS are as good as BRD is), but BRD does enough Damage for DPS checks like Bis Ext.

True issue with MCH is next:
MCH can do the same damage than BRD, but It's harder to get it like MCH, that's why MCH doesn't feel rewarded enough playing like MCH. If You are fighting against a boss with a lot of mechanics and You need to be focused on them, a lot of people are gonna choose BRD because You can focus on mechanics and do a good DPS easily.
If MCH is harder than BRD, that fact should be rewarded. That fact makes MCH a bit unfunny to play with.

In my opinion, if MCH doesn't get a boost, I dont expect to see MCHs in hardcore groups.