Would like more opinions on this. (Dragoon Rotation)

I feel like this really depends on how much you want to talk about the whole "almost no point to..." part of his post. With final coil now having a 15% echo buff and people being able to over gear almost every piece of content in the game there really isn't any need maximize dps for anything right now. So when you compare his rotation to how the game is right now I feel like you can get by with what he's doing.

In regards to what he's saying, his main argument is his "math" and his math doesn't consider dot clipping or proper cooldown usage. And there's a lot to be said about proper cooldown usage with a dragoon since a very large portion of your damage comes from your jumps and your buffs. So before I run anything and compare numbers I'd say his "less than 1%" is probably a lot closer to 5% and possibly even higher depending on if he's using cooldowns and how he's using them.

Anyway, hope that helps. I had a lot more typed out but...character limit.

Considering that many players are still doing pretty badly even with 15% echo, I wouldn't want to promote a lazier method by which they can continue not to improve.

I think it's antithetical to being a good player. Even running dungeons you should practice the proper rotation, there's always a good mix of dealing with positionals, dodging aoe, target switching, while maintaining the rotation. IMO even dealing with those things on a small scale lets you become more adept at the job in general. And really there's no reason not to, dungeons are perfect low-pressure situations to practice and experiment with different things.

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Originally Posted by SwarleyMcSwarls

there really isn't any need maximize dps for anything right now.

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There's a difference between "maximizing DPS" and just not caring at all. Doing your job's basic rotation is the bare minimum for a DPS class.

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Originally Posted by SwarleyMcSwarls

I feel like this really depends on how much you want to talk about the whole "almost no point to..." part of his post. With final coil now having a 15% echo buff and people being able to over gear almost every piece of content in the game there really isn't any need maximize dps for anything right now. So when you compare his rotation to how the game is right now I feel like you can get by with what he's doing.

Anyway, hope that helps. I had a lot more typed out but...character limit.

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Saving time and lowering the chances for a wipe by making a fight shorter or skipping mechanics (e.g. 3rd Shadow in T13) seem like good reasons.

Btw, you can edit your post to bypass the character limit.

almost all top end raiders of any MMO will mention something about muscle memory at some point if you ask them about how they do good dps in any given situation, using a dumbed down version of a rotation at all, will make you lose some of that muscle memory, and worse still, replace it will a dumbed down version, which means when you do try for that optimal dps you need, you end up loosing dps even further.

my advice: everyone should use their optimal rotations regardless of the content on hand, be it a fate, savage coil, or world of darkness, etc.
this goes for more than just dragoon to.

I don´t remember when was last time I play with a decent drg in DF,PF and World of the hopeless/CT/ST.