(Serious) White Mage and Scholar are equally balanced.

the truth is: both healers are overpowered. and the astro will be overpowered too

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Ast gonna be the new best unbalanced healer. Then se will nerf it and it'll be back to good ol' whm vs sch while Ast cries in a corner.

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That reminds me of a scene in Sam & Max Season 1...

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Max: (describing what happened to a beat-up gumball machine) A gang of five dentists came through the other night, and four of them just started beating the crap out of it!
Sam: What did the fifth one do?
Max: He kept sobbing, and saying, "Why can't we all just get along?"

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Also, all the healers are overpowered. They heal more than any of the other classes! :p

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Originally Posted by Parawill

On a side note, I don't think it's fair to call them dumb. Rather than stifle discussions--may be it pointless to you or not--discussion is discussion. If you see that there is nothing else to offer or both sides are too stubborn or ignorant of the opposing side, then you're free to leave the discussion. Personally I enjoy these kinds of discussions since you get to see different thought processes, rationale and logic, but to each of their own I guess.

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There's always been some kind of weird, unspoken gag order going on in the healer forums. It feels very... dystopian. I love dystopian novels; dystopian forums are just... weird.

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Originally Posted by Mutemutt

There's always been some kind of weird, unspoken gag order going on in the healer forums. It feels very... dystopian. I love dystopian novels; dystopian forums are just... weird.

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No. There's thread after thread after thread on SCH vs WHM. No one's stopping the discussion from repeating over and over and over and over again.

It does make some people tired of it. But you can do yet another SCH vs WHM thread if you really want to.

Yes. And make sure that you put down those dirty Scholars by proving how their healing output sucks because they can't do amazing 10'000 Cure II crits under circumstances which will never, ever happen in a practical fight. Or how your Shroud of Saints restores 2'000 MP (Natural MP regeneration? What's that?) compared to the PUNY 900 AETHERFLOW WHITE MAGE SMASH FEEBLE SCHOLAR RAWR

Or if you want to put down White Mages as the Scholar that oozes sexuality and wants everyone to mate with you, because gods forbid that your brilliant intellect isn't passed on, mention how you keep your faerie on Sic all the time, because it's enough for the Roulette Sastasha runs you do. Or how you think that Cure III is the best single target heal a White Mage has, because obviously greater numbers mean better, and Cure is the single target line of spells, silly.

Or even better, if you're a masochist like me who hates everyone, just mention how your Spell Speed build regularly saves the tank from being flattened by Bahamut Prime. You'll instantly gain the unconditional adoration and undying hatred of thousands of Scholars and White Mages. We healers are complicated like that.

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Originally Posted by Raminax

...if you're a masochist...

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Well, this is the healers' forum.

Astro will be overpowered and overtuned.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

No. There's thread after thread after thread on SCH vs WHM. No one's stopping the discussion from repeating over and over and over and over again.

It does make some people tired of it. But you can do yet another SCH vs WHM thread if you really want to.

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Well, it's not like the user's have any power to stop that even though it's quite apparent they want that topic to disappear forever. It's pretty much the taboo topic around here.

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Originally Posted by Mutemutt

Well, it's not like the user's have any power to stop that even though it's quite apparent they want that topic to disappear forever. It's pretty much the taboo topic around here.

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It's because the topic always devolves into a poo-flinging contest of who is better than whom. Same arguments made, same calculated numbers stamped in, superiority complexes get fired up and the same dead horse beaten for the umpteenth time. :/ I'm not a fan of those threads, at all, and glad when they die down. It's not that you CAN'T, just that it goes nowhere and usually only serves to spark more than just a peaceful debate - and people get tired of it. I'd rather the divide of WHM and SCH close and the two come together - not become more and more against each other... which is what becomes illustrated in those kinds of threads.

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Originally Posted by Mutemutt

Well, it's not like the user's have any power to stop that even though it's quite apparent they want that topic to disappear forever. It's pretty much the taboo topic around here.

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I think people are just tired of going in circles. You can argue until you're blue in the face but in the end (and as much as some people here really hate it), progression groups are going to take 1 of each healer.