Doesn't even need to be about showing off.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhope
For a lot of us, it's about seeing the avatar we created progressing. We want it to become stronger and stronger.
You can not be the best of your class without coil gear, assuming all things else are equal. You need it for some slots, thus BiS. There's a sense of completion.
Mind you, I love the people I raid with most the time. That makes it more pleasant though.
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03-09-2015, 10:01 PMEidolon
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03-09-2015, 10:05 PMEidolon
Also: there is no need to insult people who play differently than you. "If they do they are stupid" insults others for their play style.
That's like me saying of youre not playing to be the best, you're stupid. Or if you're playing to socialize you're stupid. It's a very shallow logic and only serves to insult. I respect people for whatever reason they play.We're here to have fun -
03-10-2015, 01:58 AMFaelandaeaNice that you cannot accept that different people and cultures exist in gaming. It's a sad fact, but most people DO raid for the gear. That's the entire point of raiding is to get the loot and the completion. I get PLENTY of social experience from running beginner dungeons like CT and Odin. If I want a social experience I'll stick to those, and to be honest farming ST/WoD and daily roulette for Poetics, and doing my weekly for CT, gives me the same level gear as I'd get from Coil, only without tearing my hair out with 50,000 wipes due to mechanics and then hoping I MIGHT get the winning roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
If you have a different reason for doing Coil, I accept that and I am fine with it, but don't insult people because their reasons for playing a part of a game are different from yours. That kind of closed mindedness is anything BUT the social person you claim to be. Your attitude alone just contradicted the entire point you were trying to make with your post.
Hehe so true. Getting along with your team is definitely an added bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eidolon
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03-10-2015, 03:44 AMLineageRazor
Here's a couple of useful all-purpose questions you can keep in mind when it comes to ANY piece of gear in this game:
Q: I worked hard for [piece of equipment X]. Will [piece of equipment X] become obsolete someday?
A: Yes. Yes it will. Having it, though, may well make it easier to obtain [better piece of equipment Y].
Q: Is it a total waste of time to get [piece of equipment X] when I can just wait and pick up [better piece of equipment Y] later?
A: That depends entirely on what you consider to be a waste of time. While it was still best-in-slot, you were king of the world. Was that a waste? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's up to you to decide. -
03-10-2015, 03:52 AMKendrik
There is the B option of required to obtain equipment Y
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03-10-2015, 03:57 AMWelsper59Just so you know, that basically means EVERYONE who DFs content more than once, hoping for a drop = idiot. While there are many idiots that you'll meet, they're idiots for reasons beyond wanting gear lol. Speaking as someone who did raids primarily during the golden age of MMORPGs (aka vanilla WoW and FFXI), you did it for the gear. The memories come with the desire for the gear, not the other way around. Maybe a handful of people did it mostly for the social aspect, but that priority wasn't very far from wanting the drop they could use. Likewise, for many, the priority of gear probably wasn't too far off from the fun of raiding with friends, but it was still the priority (see majority reason). If gear wasn't what you wanted, there'd be no reason to farm said content, but raid groups ALWAYS DO (including the final boss of a raid tier).Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
On topic though, Lucis is most definitely going to be replaced and forgotten. I wouldn't bother besides for self accomplishment reasons, or you need the stats immediately for one reason or another. Perhaps you just don't have anything else to work on (like with MGP) or are bored. If it's for expansion reasons however, don't bother. -
03-10-2015, 04:00 AMMishini_Dracoto
So, Somebody else posted something in here I thought was hilarious. he said it's a waste to get Luci, but he's getting is Zodiac b/c Ypshi said he won't scrap Relics.
FYI -> Supra / Lucis are crafting Relics.
It's a good question, I'm hoping they continue to get upgraded. when 3.0 comes out, they will either be replaced or upgraded. I'm not chancing it, I'll be getting all of my Luci's before June. -
03-10-2015, 04:11 AMTeryaaniThis. Plenty of us don't push for BiS, but being on the bleeding edge of content is important to some players.Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
On that note and the subject of the Lucis, having the ability to craft 4 star crafts while most crafters (me included) are at 2 star, 3 star if I'm lucky, is huge in terms of being able to get the shiniest glamours/furniture/minions and the ability to generate gil while that content is new. -
03-10-2015, 04:13 AMWelsper59See, that's actually where a misunderstanding occurs. They're not relics actually, at least not something literally implied to be, as there's never been any sort of indication that they are, besides that they're a class/job specific main hand. The quests that you do for the i55 original have zero to do with the weapon, but rather the overall storyline for the craft and you're just given the equip by default. They're basically only a trademark tool, mainly because it's what you see the crafting guild head NPCs use. The "relic" term being applied to the crafting tools is a player-applied term to make it easier to grasp what someone is talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishini_Dracoto
Maybe they will have some use though in the expansion, besides leveling assistance, and since you don't want to chance it, by all means go for it. -
03-10-2015, 04:18 AMKendrik
I'd have a hard time finding it again. But I think I recall a live letter when Yoshi talked about the concept of relics for crafting and gathering being an interesting one and shortly after that we got supra (and now the lucis) upgrading from the original MHs.