Just a regular day of TT

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

I follow a similar tactic except I use ixal instead of amaljaa and use ixal in top left to bait with.

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Vorsaile in Gridania is actually the reason why I stopped doing this because if you play Frixio in the spot I outlined, Vorsaile will almost always use either Kan-E-Senna or Nanamo right underneath Frixio to flip it because those cards both have an unfavorable South stat, so the NPC is trying to wall off its low number. But the West stat for those two cards are 7 and 8 respectively.

So Frixio being played adds a +1, making her open numbers all 7's. Flip it with the Amal'jaa on top of it (being an 8 with +1) and baiting the hungry NPC with that beautiful 1 open to the outside.

By now the Ascension is +2 and all of the rest of my cards are 8's.

If Kan-E was used to flip Frixio, you can now flip Kan-E and make all of your numbers 9's. If Nanamo was played, then you need another Ascension before you can flip, but you can almost always get your next ascension by flipping the card the NPC used to flip Amal'jaa (in my personal experience, Vorsaile usually uses Papalymo/Yda for this and very rarely Minfilia because she is even easier to claim)

By that time you have control of 6 cards and your stats are ascended to the point where they just can't be taken back.

I literally copy pasted this to the Imperial Indolent and it works with about the same success rate. Both of the NPC's have cards that are stacked for certain flips, but starting on the right instead of the left gave me more opportunities to exploit the NPC into leaving a low stat open for flipping, more often.

this just proves the drop rates of cards and the prices of gold saucer items arent as bad as ppl are complaining about yeah the rare cards have really low % but thats how they are supposed to be

imperial really seems like 1 of the best ways to make MGP atm since your almost guaranteed to win 100% of the time making a nice tidy profit off winnings n card sales

Now that I've had some sleep, I use Amalj'aa as the bait card. It has about the same success rate as using Frixio as long as the AI takes the bait. If you start, place Amalj'aa at top center and use either Memeroon or Fruxio to take it back if AI falls for the bait, after that you'll have enough Ascension to not have to worry and just play accordingly. If the AI starts, place Amalj'aa in center left if he plays a card in top center or center right or if he plays Gaius in bottom center place Amal'jaa in center right.

Winning with a full beast tribe deck is really easy as pointed out and you can probably work out dozens of strategies that work very well. It took me about 7-8 hours to earn ~50k and all those cards in the picture so I would wager he is by far the fastest and best NPC to grind for MGP if it's what you are after. I also made a fair amount of mistakes (really, try keep focus and sanity after playing the same guy with the same strategy for 6hours and you'll start to make silly mistakes). But even then 9 out of 10 messed up games will end in a draw and you still make more MGP than you spend to play him.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

this just proves the drop rates of cards and the prices of gold saucer items arent as bad as ppl are complaining about yeah the rare cards have really low % but thats how they are supposed to be

imperial really seems like 1 of the best ways to make MGP atm since your almost guaranteed to win 100% of the time making a nice tidy profit off winnings n card sales

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I would say it rather proves the point people are trying to make. The OP used a near failsafe method of winning against the Imperial, and even then had to spend an enormous amount of time to get that many wins. Yet all of that and only 1/15th towards 1mil MGP.

Besides, drop rates? Have you taken a proper look at the OPs image? oO
Almost 300 cards and zero Gaius cards amongst them.

Hell, that is even worse then the complaints ive seen about the droprates.

the point is most QQ threads u see state that card drop is really low... the OP wouldnt have that many cards if they were as low as the QQ threads state... 5 star cards are supposed to be low rate to obtain, rewards the ppl who make the effort to obtain them not duel 20 times then cry cause it doesnt drop in my world theres already quite a few players with 60+ cards.. cant be that low right??

heck even i have 50+ cards only 1 ive hard to farm more then n hour is thancred lol

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

the point is most QQ threads u see state that card drop is really low... the OP wouldnt have that many cards if they were as low as the QQ threads state... 5 star cards are supposed to be low rate to obtain, rewards the ppl who make the effort to obtain them not duel 20 times then cry cause it doesnt drop in my world theres already quite a few players with 60+ cards.. cant be that low right??

heck even i have 50+ cards only 1 ive hard to farm more then n hour is thancred lol

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Card drop rate IS really low. The Indolent Imperial has about 25% chance to give you a 2* card, 5% or less for the 3* Nero card. I have no idea what the drop rate on Gaius is but for me it's so far 0% as I haven't gotten it and I played against him for 8 hours straight. And the MGP worth of the cards I did get was about 2k. Not even 5% of what I earned from sheer winning against him. It wasn't really meant as an outright complaint thread but I've been stuck at 54 cards for a full day now because neither dungeons/trials drop and I can't get the ones I need from NPC's anymore.
I think I'm on the verge of wanting to complain because RNG is really going against me right now.

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

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Ah, I will just ignore you. Best not to feed.

Queue as WAR

Friday 27/03/2015 17:00 gmt+1 to 05:36 gmt+1 (12h 36 min)
30x ultros 0x Terra

Saturday 28/02/2015 14:00 gmt+1 to 03:00 gmt+1 (13h)
20x ultros 0x Terra

Sunday 01/03/2015 15:00 gmt+1 to 20:57 gmt+1 (5h 57 min)
11x ultros 0x Terra

Sunday 01/03/2015 23:30 gmt+1 to 1:30 gmt+1 (2h)
1x ultros 0x Terra

Monday 17:20 gmt+1 - 18:00 gmt+1 (40 min)
2x ultros 0x terra

Monday 19:10 gmt+1 - 19:31 gmt+1 (21min)
0x Ultros 1x terra <----- got Terra Branford

Queue as WAR & SCH (switch between 2 jobs)

Monday 14:30 gmt+1 to 17:00 gmt+1 (3h 30 min)
3x ultros 0x terra

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Total farm time: 38 h 3 min
Ultros & Typhon: 67 cards
Terra Branford : 1 card

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I'm all for rare cards being rare, but it's not fun or fair when someone gets Gaius in 20 wins and I'm at 1000+ wins and still no drop.

Not only that, I've been spending my points on gold packs to get maybe one of those 5 stars, and so far nothing. So I've literally been spending my time getting absolutely nothing.

This is what drives people to botting. It's just poor game design. Absolutely no reward for effort, while random Joes walk up, get what they want, and then leave.

This was meant to be side content and yet I'm seeing people grind this harder than zodiac and gear. Everything in this game right now are huge grinds on top of luck of RNG. Then to pour salt in the wound we got a TT tourney coming up, joy. Wasn't there a slide somewhere from one of the live Q&A with the quote "If its not fun, we're doing it wrong." Well...