You are not a fail.

U are all right. Everyone is right here. And majority rules, true. But OP will allways be right nevertheless...they are not a fail and no one should be harassed for anything ;) This count for any mmo and RL, too. Be tolerant.

lmao dude calm down its just a game i can tank in sword oath or without defiance lmao stop hating nasty troll
dude calm down im just checking my anime instead of spamming cure II on you even when you're taking 400 damage every 2 seconds
lmao stop being tryhard i want to inspect every angle of this dungeon stop getting mad just because i want to look at the water
lmao dude we have the dps to skip this boss's longer phase if we put effort but nah i want to do it for teh lulz and fun

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

That's a very subjective thing to say.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Wow, talk about irony....You do realize that you just illustrated why the OP posted what they did, right?

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OP used the verb "want" not "can".

For instance:

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As a Healer that doesn't want to AoE or cleric stance.

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This sentence implies that the healer in question can DPS but doesn't want to.
In that case, what Daranion said is true.


However, I think that the OP just used a bad wording which misrepresents the actual point he/she was trying to make.
If that's the case, then the correct answer to that topic is:

Of course, if a player forces someone to do something they can't do (would it be because of the gear, the lack of knowledge or whatever), then that evil player is a bad player. Duh.

"Duh" being mantadory.

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Originally Posted by Shirana

As a Healer that doesn't want to AoE or cleric stance.
As a DPS that wants to kill adds hitting the healer instead of burning boss.
As a tank taking it slow or pulling only two groups.
As a player wanting to do mechanics instead of ignore them.
As a new player to the dungeon dying to mechanics in a forced, silent speed run.
As a human being trying to remember what having fun means.

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Quoted for truth...and 110% agreed.

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Originally Posted by Shirana

A message to people being harassed in dungeons during forced speed runs that have become worse than usual. And a thanks to tanks that do not force speed runs even on barely geared players, DPS not harassing tanks or healers over speed and damage, and healers not ditching when the run is slow or has new people.

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This tank does not do speed runs at all. I dislike the pressure of the mass pulls, and I dislike putting my healer (my wife) under that kind of pressure, she plays for fun, not stress... The only time my WHM attempts more dps than an Aero or stone, is when running maps or FATE and a Holy or two helps mow down the mobs, and healing is not an issue. I have never ditched a run as tank, dps or healer - even when some player running as a Maurader in Haukke Manor insisted on playing with ilvl 20 gear, could not hold threat and got pissed off at me (playing as Scholar) because I 'would' not use Leeches (which thanks to level sync, Scholar doesn't have in Haukke) - the same player claimed to have a ilvl 98 scholar and so he knew what could/could not be done...

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Originally Posted by Fyce

However, I think that the OP just used a bad wording which misrepresents the actual point he/she was trying to make.

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Well done you for reducing the argument to semantics and not merits...

Hyperbole and exaggeration isn't the best to use on this forum Melriss, surely you know that by now

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Originally Posted by Daranion

Hyperbole and exaggeration isn't the best to use on this forum Melriss, surely you know that by now

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From what I've seen the forums here are ripe with exaggerations and constant whining about either Atma being too hard to get or people saying that healers should never ever DPS.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

And, while there are some people that are overly pushy f8r speed runs...there are just as many being the same for slow runs.

If there are 3 wanting a speed run, and you're geared for it, well, majority rules. Same the other way; if three want it slower, that's what happens.

However, if you just refuse to dps when there's only light healing going on, or just single target when aoe is easy to do, or try to extend a fight for no reason...you're either really lazy or just bad (or a troll). Neither reflect well on you

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Or you just don't have the gear to heal a speed run...I've had plenty of times a tank decided he was going to pull multiple groups and I was geared enough to heal the dungeon..just not geared for a speed run heal the dungeon.

Those tanks learned their lesson when they died a couple of times. (And not on purpose).

Is there a point of this thread other than a making a "I play how I want so Fk off" statement?

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Is there a point of this thread other than a making a "I play as intended thank you very much" statement?

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Fixed it for you...

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Well done you for reducing the argument to semantics and not merits...

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Semantics is about the meaning. Two different verbs are not semantics as they can drastically alter the meaning of an actual sentence.