Is turning off game client and hope to get kicked to avoid penalty a thing?

The thing about blacklist, doesn't it only stop them talking to you (hiding their comments from chat and blocking their tells) not whether will end up in party with them again?

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Originally Posted by monochromicorn

That moment when someone has a bad connection, and has a legit DC after a botched pull. Happens a little more often than you think. So let's just report the guy who went offline after a pull, he's obviously avoiding penalty.

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Does 10 mins sound reasonable to power cycle PC/Router, restart client, re-login to you? You are telling everyone we are assuming the worst, and yet you are assuming the worst of us.

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

Does 10 mins sound reasonable to power cycle PC/Router, restart client, re-login to you? You are telling everyone we are assuming the worst, and yet you are assuming the worst of us.

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I've had longer than ten minutes to log back in. I got DC, couldn't even pull up the log in screen for 4 minutes, then went through several "errors" that didn't get me past the menu, either going through the login again and then sometimes even restartING the program. It is entirely possible to have a legit DC for longer than 10 minutes.

And I never assumed anything from anyone, but gave a completely possible scenario and the actions that would be taken, according to all other posters in the thread.

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

Does 10 mins sound reasonable to power cycle PC/Router, restart client, re-login to you? You are telling everyone we are assuming the worst, and yet you are assuming the worst of us.

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I've had the "You're still logged in" message persist for that long before on more than one occasion. It's not impossible.

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Originally Posted by monochromicorn

I've had longer than ten minutes to log back in. I got DC, couldn't even pull up the log in screen for 4 minutes, then went through several "errors" that didn't get me past the menu, either going through the login again and then sometimes even restartING the program. It is entirely possible to have a legit DC for longer than 10 minutes.

And I never assumed anything from anyone, but gave a completely possible scenario and the actions that would be taken, according to all other posters in the thread.

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So if any scenario is possible, you will entertain the possibility of people cheating the system and put others in an inconvenient spot then?

Either way, these people should have a 30 min penalty if vote kicked 3 times in a day. Its sadly ironic that people who get vote kicked (Cheating, AFK, harrassment, etc) dont get a penalty, yet those who willingly leave will have to suffer a 30m penalty.

I've seen more more trolls, cheats, "disconnectors"get vote kicked than people who vote-kicked unfairly.

Couple a weeks ago, we were running FCoB and our NIN DCd, about 10-15 mins later his char is still in world with the DC symbol and he is unable to log back in.

Uncontrollable things can and do happen. I've had it where my connection to the internet has suddenly dropped off (couldnt resolve DNS blah blah) during dungeon runs. I bet I aint the only one that has happened to either.
What I'm getting to is that there is no way to tell the difference between a forced DC and an actual DC.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Either way, these people should have a 30 min penalty if vote kicked 3 times in a day. Its sadly ironic that people who get vote kicked (Cheating, AFK, harrassment, etc) dont get a penalty, yet those who willingly leave will have to suffer a 30m penalty.

I've seen more more trolls, cheats, "disconnectors"get vote kicked than people who vote-kicked unfairly.

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Worst thing about that is they can reque in progress and get put back into the party they were just kicked from, there should be a small lock out (5 minutes?) to prevent that happening. Which will prevent them from rejoining the same party. but not be too much of an issue if kicked unfairly.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

I've had the "You're still logged in" message persist for that long before on more than one occasion. It's not impossible.

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I don't doubt you, but can your example be true to every scenario when this happens?

When I was leveling my Monk I was doing low level roulette around 4 am, it took a while to pop and like 5 times in row when I got in the tank DC instantly, it was the same tank every time. It took me like 2-3 hours to clear the low level roulette thanks to this tank, because I could only complete it when I got completely other tank. He was probably trying to get normal mode primal from roulette and he could have just completed the roulette faster normal if he would have done it normal way instead of being a manchild. It was really infuriating as this was in 2.4, so the low level roulette wait times were terrible, but thankfully decent speed at morning hours. In the end I reported him and moved on, so lesson of the story fake dc's happen and I hope he got reprimanded by GM at least.