Does something need to be done about Vote Abandon?

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Originally Posted by Haibel

But how do you get a better team on not even (at the time) one day old content. It's hard to learn a fight when you keep having the fight end because people just quit.

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Because quitters will always quit. Frankly they feel everybody needs to do it the way they say or else. Secondly toxic people will always be toxic now matter how nice you are. Best thing to do is ignore them. Let them grumble...just keep pressing on and remain positive.

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Originally Posted by FranSeara

True, If I feel that the group is good and willing to stick it out I'll stay. This moring in Shiva Ex with mostly first timer, I was the one to tell them they could WIN! and not to give up. I've beaten the fight 20 times so far. It took 6 tries to clear Shiva Ex with this group but it was worth it to me. Some players will stick it out.

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This right here....i do the same thing. I always tell folks we got this, or to remain positive. Its a team, and last thing we need as a team is somebody telling us how we will lose.

Thanks AdamFyi, I 've had WoD in my Q for 2 days now but I keep getting Shiva Ex. lol, still havnt gotten that Smn book!!!

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

It dosnt need changing cause the only way a vote abandon would happen is if more then half of the group wants to do so thus majority rules.

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Which doesn't mean that the time of those who are willing to stay, and finish off the dungeon with new players who are willing to join an in progress dungeon, has to be completely wasted.

Using vote abandon definitely ranks #1 by far on the most selfish acts which can be taken within an instance.

I agree that vote abandon should have a cooldown time so it can't keep getting spammed by one or two upset people.

That being said, it has a purpose. If the majority of your party and is fed up, would you rather that they just leave and you spend 30+ min finding replacements while twiddling your thumbs? At least with vote abandon, the instance is closed, you get back out into the world to work on other quests/crafting/etc while the next party forms. And I agree that people tend to be dumbs about using it -- if someone wants to abandon after a single wipe, they need to cool their jets. New content is new content, not farm content (yet). I once had a party vote abandon on Titan HM right after the echo was added (it was a wipe past heart phase, so obviously, it would have been doable after another try or two, no major fails in the group). When the vote was declined, the upset folks left; we got new dps in and killed it next go. Phooey on them!

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Originally Posted by Chevrefoil

I agree that vote abandon should have a cooldown time so it can't keep getting spammed by one or two upset people.

That being said, it has a purpose. If the majority of your party and is fed up, would you rather that they just leave and you spend 30+ min finding replacements while twiddling your thumbs?

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I really don't think anybody is saying get rid of Vote Dismiss. But the Vote spam needs to stop or at least tell us who is proposing it so we can kick for harassment.

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Originally Posted by Donarudo

Because quitters will always quit. Frankly they feel everybody needs to do it the way they say or else. Secondly toxic people will always be toxic now matter how nice you are. Best thing to do is ignore them. Let them grumble...just keep pressing on and remain positive.

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I agree that quitters always quit but I've seen it too many times that you can be nice to toxic people and they at least won't be toxic towards you. But yeah you hit it on the head, keep pressing on and remain positive! :)

Personally I think they need to add a cooldown for individual players using vote abandon. Most of the time that I've seen vote abandon abuse, it's one or two crybabies spamming it.

If they made it so individual players could only initiate a vote abandon once every 5 or 10 minutes then the spam/abuse would probably be mitigated quite a bit.

If there's a legitimate reason to vote abandon then more than one person could still initiate it several times but in all honesty, if it's been rejected then the majority has already spoken.

Working as intended. If the majority wants to abandon the dungeon, the majority should speak for the group.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

Working as intended. If the majority wants to abandon the dungeon, the majority should speak for the group.

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Being spammed by a single person is not intended.