If your gonna nerf content...

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Originally Posted by Wobi

I beat turn 6 within 2 tries after having never been there before. From watching my wife do it pre-nerf I could tell it was already miles easier than before.

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To be 100% honest, not much has changed with 6. If you can stand still during Bouquet you could do T6 pre-nerf. T7 is obviously a completely different story tho lol

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Originally Posted by Remus

That is just plain stupid, just because someone can't clear something doesn't make them a bad player. Its down to the people you are working with, so from the logic you speak off if my party is bad and i know the mechanics but still can't do it im a bad player? Ok i learned something new today.

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If you cant beat t6 or t7 over multiple df tries, the only reoccurring factor is that you are in the df parties. So...

I duty finded Turn 7 on the day of the nerfs and killed it in 3 tries with 5 new players.

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Originally Posted by Remus

That is just plain stupid, just because someone can't clear something doesn't make them a bad player. Its down to the people you are working with, so from the logic you speak off if my party is bad and i know the mechanics but still can't do it im a bad player? Ok i learned something new today.

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I didn't specifically point at people as you that know the mechanics, so let me elaborate.
If people can't understand or just keep failing at the mechanics that exist in T6 and T7, and I mean repeatly, then either they're a slow thinker or just bad in general.
The mechanics in T6 and T7 are T1 level at hardness now, there's such a large margin for error now.
Since you know the mechanics I wouldn't consider you a bad player, just unlucky for getting in parties with people that aren't as clever as you.

Between this and the other thread, the jury is out. You are mad and bad.

I don't mean to be rude, but T6 and T7 have been nerfed to the ground. They are shadows of their former selves. Hell, I'd even say T7 is almost impossible NOT to beat. I truly mean that. You really need to have an extremely unskilled group to wipe to T7.

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Originally Posted by xvshanevx

...at least do it correctly.

Been a minute since I was in T6 or T7 and I wanted to see how DFable these had become with the current nerfs.

Nope. No nerf here.

Square Enix, if you're going to nerf content, the least you can do is nerf it enough so randomized people, with no voice com, with little to no experience, of the fight to be able to make it through on the 10th-13th try.

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Lol, really?

You can just brute force your way through t6 and 7 nowadays, no need to nerf this even more. They already went way overboard with the current nerfs.

Seriously? Most of the instakill mechanics are gone from the turns. They've already had a severe nerf. Any further and the fights wouldn't even be remotely the same.

See, the things with the 2nd coil, and even t5, is it's not the mechanics that are hard. The fights are easy when you know them. They hardest thing about the coils are the other people. It just takes one person to make things go wrong. Rather than rage quitting, try to explain the battles more to people. They're not meant to just be blown by. People need to know what they're doing, not just going in to kill EVERYTHING with no regards to mechanics.

For T6, its entirely everyone's fault if they get eaten because someone didnt move when they had the "orange flower" thing above their head

Notice that its still where you are? YOU should be moving out then.