Newb Bard question: When should I use the Mana, TP buffs?

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Originally Posted by mahouyolo

Note that tanks, monks, and ninjas shouldn't even be running out of TP and if they ask for paeon's tell them to stop being bad and time their invigorate right/stop spamming hate rotation.

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Umm. . .no.

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Originally Posted by mahouyolo

Note that tanks, monks, and ninjas shouldn't even be running out of TP and if they ask for paeon's tell them to stop being bad and time their invigorate right/stop spamming hate rotation.

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Had a monk today in t10 with a macro saying "tp song or I slack?". I found it sliiiightly offensive because I of course would sing without even thinking of leaving a monk sitting there with 0 tp, but I guess statements like this are driving melee dps into thinking they wont get paeon.

Edit your post before another lolbrd is added to the ranks xc

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Originally Posted by mahouyolo

TP and MP songs are a 20% DPS loss, don't use them haphazardly as people have suggested. Only use MP song when healers are nearing triple digits or just died and need big heals right away. TP song is to bridge that gap for DRGs and BRDs between invigorate cooldowns so you aren't chugging along at 0 TP waiting for it to come back up again. It's really only for fights with a constant uptime like T8, but not as necessary, if at all, in say T9. In all other instances you should play Foe's Requiem for casters. Note that tanks, monks, and ninjas shouldn't even be running out of TP and if they ask for paeon's tell them to stop being bad and time their invigorate right/stop spamming hate rotation.

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Originally Posted by mahouyolo

Note that tanks, monks, and ninjas shouldn't even be running out of TP and if they ask for paeon's tell them to stop being bad and time their invigorate right/stop spamming hate rotation.

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You were doing good until you said this...
I almost had hope for you.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

Had a monk today in t10 with a macro saying "tp song or I slack?". I found it sliiiightly offensive because I of course would sing without even thinking of leaving a monk sitting there with 0 tp, but I guess statements like this are driving melee dps into thinking they wont get paeon.

Edit your post before another lolbrd is added to the ranks xc

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I really, really dislike people like that as well (especially in PUGs). I don't mind a healer having a "Mage's Ballad, please! MP: xxxx/xxxx" macro, but when you get people being like "TP, period." or "why the fuck won't you ballad already", I find great pleasure in not singing for them.

As someone that mains bard, I'm insulted at the thought that there are bards out there that won't sing paeon for melee during long fights. You can easily field that small dps loss to make sure the melee have enough tp with invigorate. Bards don't deal as much dps as a melee, so a small sacrifice to keep optimal raid wide dps output? Sure.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

As someone that mains bard, I'm insulted at the thought that there are bards out there that won't sing paeon for melee during long fights. You can easily field that small dps loss to make sure the melee have enough tp with invigorate. Bards don't deal as much dps as a melee, so a small sacrifice to keep optimal raid wide dps output? Sure.

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That's the different between a great bard and a bad bard