Individual "Limit Breaks"

I'd rather have personal limit breaks interact with each other. Make a system similar to FFXI skill chains. All the LBs can be used separately, but if you time them together you get an additional effect. That additional effect creates a few second window for a mage LB to be more potent. Dragoon uses his LB, Paladin uses his LB, Monk uses his LB, puts an effect on the boss that increases the potency of the black mage's LB.

Each job could have more than one LB also. For instance, Ninja could have a ninjutsu LB that could benefit from the additional potency and a physical LB that can used in the chain. Dragoon could have a pure damage LB and an LB that does less damage but grants a crit buff or something.

Additionally, the LBs would interact with each other differently. A monk using his pure damage LB with the dragoon's pure damage LB wouldn't create an additional effect to boost the potency of a magic LB, but a monk using his pure damage LB with the dragoon's crit buff LB would.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

If you're no theorycrafter, why do you take the time to just throw out ridiculous ideas like these? And it's not just you, pretty much every post on this entire forum that goes in detail on someone's "dream abilities" are just way out there.

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When someone doesn't give numbers. People complain. Someone gives numbers. People complain. Someone gives thought out numbers and can point to how they're balanced. People complain.

People just like to complain :p

To the OP though, I like this idea! I find the LBs fun to use! Why limit them to the dungeon?! What would be better is if my LB worked with the class I was playing! Why is my Monk pulling out a huge sword? I'd love some huge energy claws or some nice martial arts move!

It seems limit break might have been a poor choice of ward because reading them it seems like it has nothing to do with the party gauge. The problem with massive cooldowns is that they need to be on large cooldowns and you've picked up on that. The problem is when they are on cooldown. With the limit break you get usually one massive damage spell dependant on who casts it for the whole party each fight. With a personal massive cooldown you have 8 other people with one and then encounter designers have to design around 8 people using their massive cooldown. If they don't then the fight becomes trivial. If you still have your massive attack on cooldown then the encounter is impossible to beat without it. If you are doing coil for instance do you wait 15 minutes for the cooldowns. Seems a waste.

during 1.x we had 15 min skills that we learned with lv50.

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Originally Posted by Jacost

20 minute cooldown[/B],
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Lets not go there. super powerful skills on a long cooldowns are fun but they have to balance raid bosses around them.
Alright guys, next pull in 20minute.

Why not just go for simple conditions ala FF 8, only being able to use it when low on hp or ala FF10; a gauge that fills due to specific actions like taking damage or dealing damage or healing teammates?

Anyway I like your idea OP, as unbalanced as it could be, it seems pretty nice :)

I like the idea, although it looks like Dragoon gets short-changed. 500 potency for a limit break seems nice at first, but if you're in the air for 3 seconds and were at the vorpal->full thrust part of your combo anyway, you'd do more damage with that than this hit. And looking at the other DD LB's, it'd get like no use.

Just to address some of the comments: No, these are not true LBs, and have no bar. They'd be regular skills in terms of mechanics, but they evoke the feel of a limit break as we know them from previous FFs. I gave a 20 minute cooldown to ensure that they'd probably only see use once a run, but 5-10 minutes probably would work better.

The numbers could definitely use some adjustment by someone who knows this stuff inside and out. I just designed them thematically, the idea being that this is what happens when a hero of this class really pulls out all the stops and shows that they have, in fact, been getting stronger over the last year. The only one I think doesn't really work is the WHM one, but I had some issues there. The only other thing I could think of at the time was a full-party Benediction, which sounded unimpressive (although perhaps if it also healed all status effects on the party...). Another idea I had later was allowing infinite Freecure and Overcure for a brief period.

As to balance... Like I said, these would be learned at level 60. I think it's likely that SE will have all current content level-synched to 50 in future to preserve it's current balance, allowing them to shake things up for Heavensward. Since these wouldn't be usable outside of expansion stuff anyway, it could be designed around at SE's leisure.

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Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork

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I think he meant that regardless of what you do, you keep infuriated. Meaning you can spam moves like steel cyclone for those 10 secs. Urrr, I think anyways.

it'd be great of the individual limit breaks has pro and cons to em; off that bat

-paladins: reduce damage overall to the party but drop overall damage like effects of shield oath which can effect dps checks
-warriors: increases damage output enmity (self) and hp to all but the drawback is at least 1 member thats not a tank and gotta be within a certain range for each benefit which effects party mechanics
-black mages: 8 sec "fury" status castin any spells then the drawback is a 5 sec invincible burst final attack which can potentially hurt your party if caught in the aoe; big risk thing
-bards: cast a song for mass tp and mp reduction for 20 secs then cast a finale aoe attack but the drawback bard song lockout for 1 min
-dragoons: increase tp cost for all classes but increases damage output for 20 secs then pulls off a long animation attack like black mages risks of hurting the party
-white mages: pulls off a powerful regen/cure aoe skill and negates any incoming status for 20 secs but boss wise mechanics will not be affected; drawback is long animation limit break casting 12 secs
-scholar: casts special aoe buffs in the area simliar to arcanist story quest 1 can lower damage taken, another increases skill/cast speed for 40 secs, another casts a negate status effect shield for 10; drawback is it can't be stack with other zones and overall 9 sec cast when doing it