Darknight should be a dps Role

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Originally Posted by Donoven8356

First of all i know this isn't ff11

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If you understand this...

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but i wish they would stop changing the jobs we loved from ff11.

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...then why mention this?

As you said, this isn't FFXI...its XIV. XIV is its own beast that's playing by its own rules.

Hell...DRK may actually get me interested in actually tanking in this game (which also means that...aw crud...i've gotta get some actual tanking practice in). GLD/PLD and MRD/WAR really don't interest me all that much...but DRK does spark it a little.

Actually in FFXI DRK was an excellent tank and dps with relic, in fact in some cases better than PLD. This especially happened later in FFXI's life. This is not FFXI and never will be, so to all you complainers, shut the F up and enjoy the game for what it is or quit; and stop speaking of shit on a biased, uninformed basis.

Think I'm getting the logic flow.

Dark Knight = Batman
Batman = Ninja
Ninja = DPS

Therefore, Dark Knight = DPS.

I can't comment on FFXI(but people don't seem to want us to, so I guess that's okay), but there is one thing about the Dark Knight that has stayed relatively constant through the series:

They wear Heavy Armor(+1 Tank) and can take a lot of punishment(+1 Tank).

Furthermore, some more recent iterations actually want enemies to attack them(+1 Tank) because that pisses them off and makes them stronger(+1 DPS). A DPS who goes out of his way to take damage pisses the party off. A Tank who merely does his job takes damage and gets rage benefits for free.

So... that's 3 points that point to a Dark Knight being suited for a Tanking role and just 1 that points to DPS.

As for the whole sacrificing HP thing, it would probably best work as a risk/reward system. If you want to survive as best as possible, sacrifice as little HP as possible. You'll keep threat but just deal less damage. If you're feeling confident or you're just out in the world, you can be more aggressive. Besides, I don't doubt there will be self heals or drains in the Job. However, do we even have confirmation that this will be a mechanic for the class? If not, there is a distinct possibility that it either won't exist or will be greatly diluted.

I know this isn't FFXI....but they should design the game around muh FFXI. Nostalgia goggles too strong

Ok so alot don't agree with me but that is cool, but i don't with eveything u guys said either.

i said i know this isn't 11 but lets look at the facts .. every job that ff14 came up with beides warrior was the same idea as 11, for job roles. So i didn't think it was to much to expect same for drk.

Anyone that really played 11 knows that warrior and drk were not real tanks.. they couldn't tank anything that was really end game... .besides maybe in abyssa. Drk did pull alot of hate .. but had one of the crappy defenses and the game and dread spikes didn't make up for that

as far as the ranger topic thats mybad .. they just annouce the next gunner classis gonna most likely be a healer.

Good relic drks could tank, they tanked salvage and hnms actually, all pre abyssea. And if 14 was the same job wise, nin would be able to tank and so would mnk, just like in 11. So let's stop comparing or expecting this entirely new and different game to be anything like 11.

I'd like for DRK to be similar to how it was in Bravely Default honestly, best iteration of the class so far IMO. I already made a thread on this though before so that's all I have to say.

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Originally Posted by Donoven8356

i said i know this isn't 11 but lets look at the facts .. every job that ff14 came up with beides warrior was the same idea as 11, for job roles.

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I don't think XIV's BRD is anythig like XI's, it doesn't even fit the same role.

You want dark knight to be dps like ff11, then go play ff11. They ain't going to make every single role like how it is in previous games so you will like it. Heavy armor, great sword. To me, it fits as a tank. Warriors ain't a good tank in ff11? who cares, they're beasts in ff14. You're not the director of this game. They make dark knight what they want. And if they're confident enough to announce it first means dark knight is gonna be hell alot of fun. #dealwithit