SCH/SMN to have their own attributes points

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If you think SCH has weak heals then you don't understand the job or how it works. Mitigation is the SCH's domain.

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My point exactly. Mitigation =/= heals.

The reason this is what it is is due to Scholar and Summoner being shared under the Arcanist class. It is the Arcanist class that you're essentially spending skill points on, not either of the jobs.

Though with DRK being a classless job in 3.0, it does make one wonder what the future will hold for the structure of pre-existing jobs like SCH or SMN. Will they get revamped?

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

My point exactly. Mitigation =/= heals.

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You also should know that Physick is identical to Cure 1. Cure 1 is the main WHM heal used. Also, are you having your Farie on Obey and have it's Embrace macro'd to your heals?

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

It's like this because at this point, Arcanist is the only class you can level and get both a DPS and a Healer role in just a single grind. It has already been said that this will go away once more classes branch into other jobs, diminishing the clear advantage Arcansist has at this point over every other class.

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Yoshi already said they are scraping the class system for future jobs, so Arcanist is going to be the only class to have this problem.

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

The 30 points you'll loose from Mind is about 100 HP for every Physick and it really doesn't make a difference in any fight at this moment. In fact, many of the healers that push progression on new endgame instances use VIT.

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Actually this makes or breaks T10. If you don't have just enough MND your Adlo won't cover the entirety of Prey, and then death/wipe follows.

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You also should know that Physick is identical to Cure 1. Cure 1 is the main WHM heal used.

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Yeah, and that's not the strongest heal WHM has. It is for SCH unless you count Lustrates. What's your point?

Not even going to get into what a chore it is to try healing an entire group after a big hit just with Succor and Eos's regenga that provides no immediate healing; I think that kinda speaks for itself.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

My point exactly. Mitigation =/= heals.

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Damage mitigated is damage already healed. That's the way you have to look at it.

No, you can't heal 4k damage with a crit Cure II - but when your Adlo crits you've effectively done that much. To be able to heal that much missing HP is the WHM's advantage - to not have that much damage needed to be healed in the first place is the SCH's advantage.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Yeah, and that's not the strongest heal WHM has. It is for SCH unless you count Lustrates. What's your point?

Not even going to get into what a chore it is to try healing an entire group after a big hit just with Succor and Eos's regenga that provides no immediate healing; I think that kinda speaks for itself.

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Macro your Fairy, and realize that WHM has to have more powerful direct heals because they cannot mitigate damage aside from Stoneskin. SCH healing is in no way weak.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Not even going to get into what a chore it is to try healing an entire group after a big hit just with Succor and Eos's regenga that provides no immediate healing; I think that kinda speaks for itself.

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Why are you healing after an AoE attack? That's the role of the WHM. You're supposed to cast Succor before.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Yeah, and that's not the strongest heal WHM has

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Physick + Fairy Embrace = Cure 2 at the cost of a Cure 1.

The problem is SE only made one spec for the Arcanist that the Summoner and Scholar branch from. Arcane users have three separate specializations in MMORPGS Affliction, Summoner and Destruction or in WoW's case Affliction, Demonology and Destruction.
Affliction - Pet Caster and Regenerative Healer which is the Scholar in this game.
Summoner/Demonology- This is the Summoner Pet Caster and Damage Dealer which is what the Summoner is suppose to be in this game.
Destruction/Necromancer- Puppet Master if SE wanted to add it in the game and it has Undead Pets.