Before Name Change, Fix FC Bank Thieves First!

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Originally Posted by Kaeda_Valentyne

That's like saying if you have a gym membership you can take the equipment home, cancel your membership and its not stealing. How well do you think that would go over? It's people like this who do the whole victim blaming that allow this to continue.

The least SE could do is fix the promotion issue that allows someone to promote another person above their own rank. This is continually used to steal things from FCs when ranks are put in place. A lot of people don't even know that it is possible for this to happen.

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No a better analogy is letting people stay at your house giving them access to your home safe where you keep your money and valuables. Moral of the story is don't give people access you don't trust.

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Originally Posted by Titor

You cannot steal something given to you.

Also, the character ID number is the same. If you really are concerned about people taking things out of the FC chest, write down the ID numbers of these problematic people and check it every so often. Eventually if they change a name it can circulate around so people know who to run out for.

Or do not put extremely expensive items in a FC chest that is accessed by members you do not know very well.

Screen better, limit better. What would you propose SE do? They cannot have a "take items back from member" function, that would be silly.

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Isn't the Character ID number only available among Playstation users? I swear that I had read something awhile back that mentioned Character ID numbers but that it was only visible among those who play via the Playstation 3 & 4.

He's talking about the Lodestone ID. That never changes. In any case, while I do agree the devs could make some adjustments to the permissions so you can set levels of Promotion permission, at the moment there's not much they can do to police the problem since it's very difficult to separate legit transactions from the thefts.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

He's talking about the Lodestone ID. That never changes. In any case, while I do agree the devs could make some adjustments to the permissions so you can set levels of Promotion permission, at the moment there's not much they can do to police the problem since it's very difficult to separate legit transactions from the thefts.

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I see. Now that makes sense. The Lodestone ID wouldn't change, though you would need to become a little stalker-ish and follow the offending character.

Though I do agree that the ability to promote someone to a rank above your own does seem like a bit of an oversight that needs to be remedied.

It's not stealing if you give them access to it.

There are ways to set levels.
My wife and I just joined a new FC and we asked if they had a rank to set us too until we found out if we where a good fit or not. It seems to be working out well, But I'm not going to ask for access if they feel I need or should have access I will take it.


The other option is to micro manage and let everyone see everything but need to ask if they want something.

What's worse than "thieves" raiding FC chests is the amount of people not cut out to be a FC leader, but do it anyway.

I wonder if the people who have this problem also leave their home's door wide open while away for vacation, then blame the government for not controlling thieves better after their place gets burglarized.

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Originally Posted by GalkaBikini

What's worse than "thieves" raiding FC chests is the amount of people not cut out to be a FC leader, but do it anyway.

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There is no true definition of what a leader ought to be.

The solution.

• If you do not lead your FC, leave
• Start a new FC
• make so that only the leader (you) can withdraw from chests
• If you're unwilling to leave for some reason and are not the leader, ask your FC leader to so the above step

there, problem solved :^)

I know how SE could do this, just ban everyone and there would be no one stealing from any FC banks.