Puppetmaster Job indirectly spoilered due to Rogue Storyline?

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Originally Posted by Felis

Our magitek mount is also like a marionette. It is equipped with a marionette core.

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you should know the difference between a magitek (magic technique/machine) and a puppet/marionette...

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a marionette is a puppet/ a doll... a magitek is a machine..

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

i think you underestimate the impact of only one jobs arriving into a mmorpg, we are not in FF11 where the balance wasn't always great, here Yoshida and it team try to make sure each class bring something and are balanced...
other point, Yoshida by the past had said that he will add class/jobs in funtion of two thing, what it can bring to the game in terms of gameplay and what it can bring to the team... i don't see what can bring the puppetmaster today to the game... how will you make it different of the summoner?

if you plan to simply make every skill of the puppetmaster make the pet move it will not be different than mage, the only difference will be the animation. soo far i doubt we will see the puppetmaster before long...very long. and don't get me wrong i am for more jobs/class in the game, but i second yoshida about the two point important.

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we have received 3 new jobs till now. which i think for content patches its not that less.

and no one confirmed red mage or samurai and stuff yet, and how many classes we do get. On the contrary you could say, what can a samurai add to the game? First he is a 2H damage dealer besides Dragoon... "so what should it make it differently then? The animation?".. i could also argument like that.

Besides that its the matter how different you design the specific class. For example giving commands to the puppet like the summoner in AION in contrast to the summoner we have now in FF14. etc. etc.
just one pet which is customizable and can change classes like the character can do instead of 5 different pets. the abillity to customize the pet's skills

transfering damage from the master to the puppet etc. etc. there could be many possibillities to make the PUPP unique. Plus the PUPP could heal party members, too... if the automaton has that specific role. which a summoner is unable to. and the pets of the summoner feel more or less like trash pets.

just some ideas how a PUPP could be designed:
- one pet (customizable)
- pet commands
- abillity to support/heal
- different pet roles

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

a marionette is a puppet/ a doll... a magitek is a machine..

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I don't know if you played the Goldsmith storyline, but in there it is pretty clear that the automatons which probably would be whaqt puppet master uses are machines

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

you should know the difference between a magitek (magic technique/machine) and a puppet/marionette...

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Actually Felis was correct. In the storyline Maggie (the mount) had to be given a core by the Goldsmith Guild Master and it ended up giving "her" a personality. She has a Mammet Core as her heart/brain.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

we have received 3 new jobs till now. which i think for content patches its not that less.

and no one confirmed red mage or samurai and stuff yet, and how many classes we do get. On the contrary you could say, what can a samurai add to the game? First he is a 2H damage dealer besides Dragoon... "so what should it make it differently then? The animation?".. i could also argument like that.

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You could try and argue that all melee DPS are the same, yes. But given how FFXIV is compared to FFXI, pet based classes are a little more difficult to bring into fruition. So I don't expect it anytime soon like silentwindfr says.

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Besides that its the matter how different you design the specific class. For example giving commands to the puppet like the summoner in AION in contrast to the summoner we have now in FF14. etc. etc.
just one pet which is customizable and can change classes like the character can do instead of 5 different pets. the abillity to customize the pet's skills

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Spiritmaster in Aion is the same as Summoner in FFXIV. The only difference is there are 7 or 8 pet commands for the pet, which is a result of Aion being out since 2009.

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transfering damage from the master to the puppet etc. etc. there could be many possibillities to make the PUPP unique. Plus the PUPP could heal party members, too... if the automaton has that specific role. which a summoner is unable to. and the pets of the summoner feel more or less like trash pets.

just some ideas how a PUPP could be designed:
- one pet (customizable)
- pet commands
- abillity to support/heal
- different pet roles

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I'd reserve this kind of idea for hybrid. But If it's going to be a jack of all trades, it's going to have to be a master of none. Which means it's not as desirable in end-game. Which means unbalanced. If there's one thing Naoki is trying to avoid..

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Originally Posted by Liavain_Axon

Actually Felis was correct. In the storyline Maggie (the mount) had to be given a core by the Goldsmith Guild Master and it ended up giving "her" a personality. She has a Mammet Core as her heart/brain.

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a mammet core doesnt make a magitek a puppet does it? XD i cant believe that we talk about that X
and i dont get the point either.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

which is a result of Aion being out since 2009.

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and WoW Warlock came out when? it has completely nothin to do with being released in 2009.. XD

The Summoner in FFXIV works like the WL in WoW.. which came out WAY before AION..

Think your hopes are a little too high on this one. Setting yourself up for disappointment.

It's most likely just fanservice, like a million other things in this game. Related to automatons and FFXI in particular, see: Ovjang and Mnejing. Fanservice, nothing more.

Not saying this is not a possibility, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Think your hopes are a little too high on this one. Setting yourself up for disappointment.

It's most likely just fanservice, like a million other things in this game. Related to automatons and FFXI in particular, see: Ovjang and Mnejing. Fanservice, nothing more.

Not saying this is not a possibility, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Yup you may be right. i just saw this may be a small hint. but well. time will tell.

There's a lot of lore and few quests that actually hints towards Puppetmasters and even mammets from FFXI, e.g Ovjang nd Mjeng or w/e which are basically hinted at being the "exact ones" from x years ago (Vanadiel.)

I'd love there to be another pet role in the game :)
A melee based pet user would be different from Summoner range wise...but maybe it needs something more? (More support/healing orientated pets perhaps in contrast to the dps/tanking pets SMN has)

All SE needs to do add in PUP as is it now in XI, which will give you 1 customizable pet where you can switch it roll based on how you customize it - Though that seems too complex for ARR, sadly. The only reason people say XIV has better balance than XI is because they made everything so homogenized nothing is really...different.