Soo... Sneak Attack(?)

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Suiton gives you hide in combat.
Rogues can't stealth in combat, ninjas can :D

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The more you know. :o! (I'm just learning all the skills they will get so I'm sorta derp-mode atm.)

Thanks for all the info everyone. ;-;

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Originally Posted by Lillia

The more you know. :o! (I'm just learning all the skills they will get so I'm sorta derp-mode atm.)

Thanks for all the info everyone. ;-;

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You know just SLIGHTLY less than we do, since all most people have to go on are vague demo videos and the ability list in the patch notes until tonight/tomorrow

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Suiton gives you hide in combat.
Rogues can't stealth in combat, ninjas can :D

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Suiton:
Delivers water damage with a potency of 180.
Additional Effect: Grants the caster Suiton Duration: 10s

I wondered about that effect in the patch notes. Is it more obvious in Japanese?

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Originally Posted by Sagittarian

Suiton:
Delivers water damage with a potency of 180.
Additional Effect: Grants the caster Suiton Duration: 10s

I wondered about that effect in the patch notes. Is it more obvious in Japanese?

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"Suiton" just means "Water Element", but conjecture based on videos and such has indicated that it grants something akin to hide in combat. Which makes sense, otherwise Trick Attack and Sneak Attack would be completely useless in raids (since they're very likely able to see through hide and no DPS in their right mind would try to open a fight that way), and the "wind-up" required to pull it off is long enough to justify being able to use it.

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Originally Posted by Sagittarian

Hide cannot be executed in combat.
So you wouldn't want to put Sneak Attack into a normal combat rotation anyway since it receives a major boost from Hide.

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Maybe hide will get a trait to allow combat use, but i wouldn't know

im looking forward to play rogue/nin in Carteneau PVP ;)

I am kind of wondering if Trick Attack will stack with Storm's Eye. If so it might create some balancing issues.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

I am kind of wondering if Trick Attack will stack with Storm's Eye. If so it might create some balancing issues.

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Trick Attack does, and it's justified because it apparently has a long cooldown. Storm's Eye doesn't stack with Dancing Edge, though

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Trick Attack does, and it's justified because it apparently has a long cooldown. Storm's Eye doesn't stack with Dancing Edge, though

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Ah yea it was Dancing Edge I was thinking of. A constant 20% buff to your raid's PLD+WAR+NIN might be a bit to much (assuming you have all 3)

From the sounds of it, TA seems almost strictly superior to SA, i wonder if you'd even consider it for solo play. Maybe if you can one shot with it or the mob's going to die in less than 10 secs.