Yoshi and Team treading that fine line

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Exactly, folks need to be a bit more considerate here.

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Suggesting that second coil should be nerfed isn't considerate either though. It's downright scary. You can count the challenging instances in this game with just one hand.

It's true, some people already have T9 on farm and don't have to worry about this. But some people would rather not have a very fun part of the game be nerfed before they can even reach the end of it.

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Originally Posted by Janhyua

I don't want this game to be a job for me so I would like to take it easy and progress later on but not stuck behind and left behind is not very good for the causal I think that's what they wanted but even so they still can't clear the latest coil anyway so gear different is not very big of a issue

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What's progression in your opinion? Because right now you can match the item level of coil 2 gear without even stepping foot in coil.

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Originally Posted by polyhedral

I'd love for you to tell my vet friend who only has 1 hand that to his face. He loves the game, but damn people like you for your self centered nearsightedness.
You really have no clue about other people, do you? Humanity? Any of that still left in your shallow soul for others?

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i may sound like a real ass hat for saying this but......if he has a disability...maybe he should't expect to play certain games. I mean if all games we're designed for the blind...then i doubt any of us would have any fun. just saying...

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Originally Posted by polyhedral

I'd love for you to tell my vet friend who only has 1 hand that to his face. He loves the game, but damn people like you for your self centered nearsightedness.
You really have no clue about other people, do you? Humanity? Any of that still left in your shallow soul for others?

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The rest of the game is casualmode. Why do you want the ONE tier of 'hard' content to be nerfed into the ground to storymode level?

Also if you give me your vet friend's name and he shows proof (military ID or something idk?), I'll carry him through all unlocked content for free.

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Originally Posted by Ellatrix

The rest of the game is casualmode. Why do you want the ONE tier of 'hard' content to be nerfed into the ground to storymode level?

Also if you give me your vet friend's name and he shows proof (military ID or something idk?), I'll carry him through all unlocked content for free.

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Im getting sick and tired of the use of this term "carry"! What if the guy doesn't want to be "carried" through content.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Most everyone at fanfest was boooing at the thought of nerfing coil 2. And I agree with them they should not nerf coil 2, only add echo. You want to beat it you should play better. Only a small minority want nerfs and it shows at fanfest how like nobody wanted the nerfs.

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This just in, a majority of the ffxiv population attended fanfest and thus any reactions should be taken as the general consensus.

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Originally Posted by Wyrmnus

Im getting sick and tired of the use of this term "carry"! What if the guy doesn't want to be "carried" through content.

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Then he should find a group of people that are at the same spot and similar philosophy and work on the fight to progress through it together.

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Originally Posted by Coatl

Suggesting that second coil should be nerfed isn't considerate either though. It's downright scary. You can count the challenging instances in this game with just one hand.

It's true, some people already have T9 on farm and don't have to worry about this. But some people would rather not have a very fun part of the game be nerfed before they can even reach the end of it.




What's progression in your opinion? Because right now you can match the item level of coil 2 gear without even stepping foot in coil.

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Tbh the reason you guys are complaining about the nerf is because you guys are going in with higher tier gear from coil 2 to 1 so you felt coil 1 is been nerf but seriously they did not nerf much really. Back when first coil was intro to duty finder I did not felt any change at all yea maybe a little bit damage reduce but that's it not like they completely take away death sentence or anything

Why would they nerf it when they are planning a story mode later down the road? And this idea of adding echo buff is just lazy. With every other patch gear is getting stronger. Why would anyone need a 20% buff on top of stronger gear?

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Originally Posted by JohnMccain

Why would they nerf it when they are planning a story mode later down the road? And this idea of adding echo buff is just lazy. With every other patch gear is getting stronger. Why would anyone need a 20% buff on top of stronger gear?

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By gear meaning new soldiery gear for 2.4 but waiting for 1 month to be able to upgrade some thing will end up making player lose interests in the game there for losing sub so the way to fix this is to make it 10% or 20% easier for the causal to keep them interested not everyone is like you been a top tier raider

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Originally Posted by Ellatrix

Then he should find a group of people that are at the same spot and similar philosophy and work on the fight to progress through it together.

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Good luck ever doing that when the majority of the population is no longer interested in that content.

The fact is old content like coil HAS to be nerfed eventually simply because it will eventually be impossible for people to find anyone else to run it with if it remains at current difficulty.