My first party

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Originally Posted by Fated

Leves and Behests are not supposed to compete with grind parties... that was what the problem was BEFORE 1.18.

You are supposed to be able to do those kinds of things when you don't have the time to fuss around with setting up a party and grinding for a few hours.

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Exactly. That and to get guild marks.

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Originally Posted by DNO

Edit: actually now that i think about it the same problem is still in ff11. If you do not have a party you really can not solo rank up even with Asea. Leves and behest give solo players a way to do this.

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Actually thats quite false. I played ffxi for seven years, and had seven, seventy fives all legit. (Legit: No astral burns) I solo'd BLM 1-75 BST 1-75 BLU (mostly)1-70 and SMN. Granted it took me longer, but I did. After ffxi introduced zerg parties (I hate/dislike games with this motto) and nubs getting 75 in less then a week and having no idea how to play due to abusing a broken mechanic (much like ffxiv's old leve's) I quit. Abysea/Astral Burns imo were ffxi's downfall. Hard!

On Topic, I love small group grinding parties. Leves and Behest although a option and should remain that way, are terribly boring.

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Originally Posted by Royal

Last night I did my first party. It was great. We farmed some raptors and in a matter of maybe 2 - 2.5 hours I went from barely 32 to half way through 33. My question to everyone is why even bother with levees, behests, or solo grinding. I don't think I will ever solo again. I think I have seen the light. No idea why I tried to play solo for so long.

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leve and behest sp are getting raised in 1.18a, how much i dont know. It says the biggest increases will be for rank 20 camps

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

leve and behest sp are getting raised in 1.18a, how much i dont know. It says the biggest increases will be for rank 20 camps

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Yea I'm very interested in the behest changes. Last night was the first time I tried finding a group for grinding and it only took 15 minutes. Not sure if it will be that way every night so behests may become a decent alternative. Just gotten back into the game and trying to figure everything out again lol.

I'm the only one that think 32 to 33.5 in 2-2.5 hours is excessive? I can understand that in rank 45+ but @30? I hope you were doing it wrong or something because if that's correct I just lost my faith :(

I don't want to rank up too fast nor too slow but this seems that for me.

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I'm the only one that think 32 to 33.5 in 2-2.5 hours is excessive?

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Pretty much perfect.

Soloing should be 3-4h, partying half that. Otherwise there's no point.

Considering that's around... 70k SP or so, that sounds about right.

Levelling is at a much better pace now than it used to be.

I can't wait to see the SP adjustments come monday :p

I wasn't leading the grind party but we were killing constantly, not dieing, and the only downtime was traveling. I guess it could be higher at other camps with less traveling but I didn't see any obvious mistakes. Although, i'm in no position to judge.

Hell grinding parties were awesome before the patch.