"I need 2 minutes for Raging Strikes"

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

then i could hallowed ground every time I'm about to die just for the hell of it. Or I could purposely die after using it a few pulls later so that its ready for the next one.

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Again, this is time wasted because you have to keep running back to where you were for the sake of 10 seconds of no healing required, because you have to wipe the whole party.

Schedules so strict 10 minutes extra would make the world end or something? Really? Gods forbid people could take a bathroom break or get a drink or just actually cool down in that 2 minutes? Really? Oh, the life-altering problems of pro hardcore raiders...

/sarcasm

(Like, I don't mean to troll, so please don't take it personally, but with the amount of objections and protests and general hostility the casuals' woes seem to get around here, I just can't help myself..... especially with the way this sounds, compared to some of those. Sorry not sorry.)

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Schedules so strict 10 minutes extra would make the world end or something? Really? Gods forbid people could take a bathroom break or get a drink or just actually cool down in that 2 minutes? Really? Oh, the life-altering problems of pro hardcore raiders...

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I don't think this is a hardcore vs casual raider issue. It just smoothens things out when you can pull when everyone is ready.

Bathroom/getting a drink breaks happen in every group. It doesn't happen every time they wipe. Waiting for Raging Strikes, Perfect Balance and what not, does. The wait adds up.

I couldn't tell if your Loverboys FC (giggle) did any Coil. Maybe you are in a Coil static. If you're not, not only is your statement very blunt, it also lacks all kinds of frankness which leads me to believe you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Schedules so strict 10 minutes extra would make the world end or something? Really? Gods forbid people could take a bathroom break or get a drink or just actually cool down in that 2 minutes? Really? Oh, the life-altering problems of pro hardcore raiders...

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I'm in the same static. It's not like we're hardcore or strict, but we like to maximize our T9 time, and standing around for two minutes just to make sure we get the DPS we should is very very boring. After doing T9 for around two months, it also adds up to quite a few minutes wasted, just staring at the boss.

We eventually stopped doing it completely, but it's still very annoying if we have an early death or if I activate a CD right before we wipe, and I would prefer not being afraid of using my CDs just in case something happens that looks like it could wipe us.

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Schedules so strict 10 minutes extra would make the world end or something? Really? Gods forbid people could take a bathroom break or get a drink or just actually cool down in that 2 minutes? Really? Oh, the life-altering problems of pro hardcore raiders...

/sarcasm

(Like, I don't mean to troll, so please don't take it personally, but with the amount of objections and protests and general hostility the casuals' woes seem to get around here, I just can't help myself..... especially with the way this sounds, compared to some of those. Sorry not sorry.)

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A few minutes wasted every wipe waiting on cooldowns adds up to a lot of time when learning new content. Please don't assume it's the odd 2 minute break and mock it as if everyone likes to stop-start-stop-start.

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Originally Posted by D-vide

Currently, max DPS output is increased by using buffs like Raging Strikes or Quelling Strikes that have individual cooldowns.

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Quelling Strikes does not increase dps though. Or does your brd/smn/blm have to use it to keep the boss from turning around and show someone other than the tank some love?

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Originally Posted by Sensu

Quelling Strikes does not increase dps though. Or does your brd/smn/blm have to use it to keep the boss from turning around and show someone other than the tank some love?

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Boss takes a good cleave at the rest of the group if we don't start with quelling, and we use it multiple times during the fight.

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Originally Posted by ErinWebb

Boss takes a good cleave at the rest of the group if we don't start with quelling

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The DPS can also simply be less trigger happy and wait for the boss to be positioned. As most often snatching would occur as a boss is still being moved towards e.g. the back of the room on T9.

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Originally Posted by ErinWebb

and we use it multiple times during the fight.

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The moments during fights where it's needed, it's going to be off cooldown anyway. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use it at the start of the fight to begin with. And on the primary target it's really not a necesarry skill to be used at all if the DPS doesn't pull early. If quelling strikes is required on the boss during the course of the fight then either there's a very large discrepancy in gear between the tank and DPS or the tank needs to improve rotation (by a lot).



As for the rest of the topic. Raging strikes also really isn't needed at the start of the fight during practise scenario's. It's not as if you're going to have an enrage timer to worry about anyway. You'll be dead long before that.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I would just pull the boss anyway not having a couple cooldowns is not going to make or break T9.

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This. Unless you're farming the content and your win strategy banks on that damage then it doesn't matter.

Granted I do think resetting on a full wipe would be rather nice.

I can certainly appreciate the idea of a CD reset on a full wipe, absolutely! I use a lot of CD buffs for my WAR, especially in difficult fights where healers are stretched to their limits. CDs like Foresight can be invaluable in the right circumstances.