Petition: make Allied Seals a reward for PVP too

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Originally Posted by Deelo

That is exactly why I suggested the 15-8-3 reward amount. OP's suggestion of 20-15-10 is *way* too high. You have to keep in mind that people will deliberately join and do nothing for the entire game for the nice reward of 10 free seals, ruining Frontlines...15 per win won't detract from hunts and will motivate people to cooperate for the victory. 8 is a decent 'pat on the back' for trying and 3 per loss will (should) keep the trolls out. I would be bold and propose zero Allied Seals for losing, but I know all too well how frustrating it is when you're doing your best and other teams drop the ball. As far as people joining the winning side, I don't really have any solution for that...especially if they keep the GC vs GC vs GC system.

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I purposely suggested so many seals as reward because I know that, based on the current queues, if they were fewer they might not be enough to make more people play pvp, most of the hunters would probably just continue doing hunts only as they'd be much easier and quicker; if queues were on average 5 minutes long, 10 seals for first place would be more than enough.
Anyway, I understand that by giving such rewards there's always the risk of also luring trolls and leechers, but I guess there's no helping it... Playing with some casual bad players is still better than not playing at all.

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Originally Posted by Hammerfist

Anyway, I understand that by giving such rewards there's always the risk of also luring trolls and leechers, but I guess there's no helping it... Playing with some casual bad players is still better than not playing at all.

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The problem is not that u will play with casual player, the problem could be that are almost leechers (I saw one of them right now and I don't know if he was using a bot), they will do one or two attack just to don't seem totally afk but really they won't help and sometimes it's hard to understand before the final recap (the one that I met did 6k heal 2k damage)

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Originally Posted by Deelo

That is exactly why I suggested the 15-8-3 reward amount. OP's suggestion of 20-15-10 is *way* too high. You have to keep in mind that people will deliberately join and do nothing for the entire game for the nice reward of 10 free seals, ruining Frontlines...15 per win won't detract from hunts and will motivate people to cooperate for the victory. 8 is a decent 'pat on the back' for trying and 3 per loss will (should) keep the trolls out. I would be bold and propose zero Allied Seals for losing, but I know all too well how frustrating it is when you're doing your best and other teams drop the ball. As far as people joining the winning side, I don't really have any solution for that...especially if they keep the GC vs GC vs GC system.

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Id rather it be 10-5-2

Please put allied seals as a reward for PVP Frontlines. This will draw more people into PVP and lower queue times, thus win-win.

Totally not supporting this - and you probably also not.

Just think about how many people will join for frontlines for no other case, thus not really participating in the match... or participating so bad you wish they never joined at all (if on your team).

People should play PVP because of PVP, not because they want some easy rewards... believe me, you don´t want what would be coming at you...

and of course, Frontlines pays off more than enough already, putting allied seals on it too would make it quite unbalanced IMO

TL;DR tehomegaking just said what i am thinking

So you two prefer longer queue times. Of course you are gonna have lower queue times if you are on adders since the allied seal gear is less desirable.

Other GC's have to wait quite a while to get into a match though, which is pretty annoying. Adding allied seals would get more matches going on and will let me PVP more. PVP is PVP no matter how you put it. If you can't deal with PVE heros then you aren't ready for PVP. Why would it even matter if new people joined PVP anyways? It's not like SE wanted you to group with friends for FL in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Tridus1x

So you two prefer longer queue times. Of course you are gonna have lower queue times if you are on adders since the allied seal gear is less desirable.

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No one prefers longer queue times...

but if you say "you prefer longer queue times over not satisfying matches" ... YES... not even thinking about it.

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

No one prefers longer queue times...

but if you say "you prefer longer queue times over not satisfying matches" ... YES... not even thinking about it.

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ffs...like all matches are filled with great PvP'ers now. Get off that horse.

Probably not, that horse fits me quite well...

but EOD anyways, don´t come back in complaint threads like "My Teams suck" or "$GC only got awful players"... (Which WILL pop up)

mark my words, you really will not want (more) PVEers in PVP Content when they are there for the wrong reasons ...

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

Probably not, that horse fits me quite well...

but EOD anyways, don´t come back in complaint threads like "My Teams suck" or "$GC only got awful players"... (Which WILL pop up)

mark my words, you really will not want (more) PVEers in PVP Content when they are there for the wrong reasons ...

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I can complain about all that stuff now. That was my point.