Originally Posted by
monochromicorn
i forgot to include in that part of what makes a grind to me, no matter how easy or hard, is having a clear goal, which is why im going to love everything after atma. its all clearly defined, although parts of it are dependent on other systems, such as SBing and converting gear for novus, but it still has a clear, attainable goal, with onvious progress. it is very much unlike atma in every way. its too easy to farm fates for something that never really drops, and its not even certain youll get it. if it was do 75-100 fates in one area and it guarantees and atma, then i would consider it a grind. right now, its just hoping that it finally drops