I miss the "dangerous" zone/area we had in 1.0

FFXIV game rhythm is fast paced, rush, trying not to grind (and that's why gear grind feels so heavy in comparison)


stealth to reach some place feels more slow, FFXI had a great stealth and dangerous world and every time yu reached somewhere (AF quest, story quest) felt great, but thats cuz the game rhythm was slower, getting more slow progress elements did not stand as a bore if all the game is like that

Is like comparing a Metal Gear kind of game vs a God of war, different pace.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Run all maps with your naked level 1 character and then report here how many of them had let you pass unharmed :D

It is obvious there is no open world danger, when you are geared to kill the most dangerous evil of all the game.

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And yet they somehow had places in almost any zone, in 1.0, that you would have to be careful traversing by yourself even if you were max leveled and geared.

Honestly, lets face it, in ARR you don't solo "the most dangerous evil of all the game" you do that in a party/alliance. It would not be too difficult of a stretch to think there are enemies out in the world you cannot defeat without the help of a couple others. Right now you can almost just auto-attack anything to death while going for a cup of coffee IRL.

In 1.0 there was a mid range story quest that involved traveling to a heavily guarded area in old Mor Dhona. A lot of it was thin paths littered with various Ahriman, most of which could kill me in 2 or 3 hits. I had 2 options, I could find a party to help me through the shorter, path through the shroud, or I could take it solo and manage my way around the demons. I chose to go solo as there was no one available in my linkshell at the time. In order to avoid gear damage, I stripped down to small clothes and carefully snuck around the enemies line of sight. Sometimes I had to wait a few minutes for the perfect opportunity, sometimes I had to risk coming up extremely close to an enemy hoping I wouldn't catch their agro.

The whole thing took me about 45 minutes, and it was one of the most satisfying experiences I've had in this game to date.

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Originally Posted by Millerna

One of the best zones in an MMO is, in my opinion, still Kithicor Forest in Everquest. During daytime it was all friendly and low level, but during night time you'd better get out fast, because all the high level, and very deadly undead started showing up.

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See, that would be a very simple and fun endgame idea to bring people back into the open world. Make certain areas of the Black Shroud start teeming with level 60+ monsters at nighttime and then make a treasure coffer with rare loot spawn somewhere. Make rare elite spawns that drop ultra rare crafting mats wander during certain times of the day.

Do something...just make me thirst for adventure again.

+1 to danger zones

Just curious as to what would be the significance.. So they are too powerful for one person, they could be like a lv 50 dungeon boss were you need 4 people at least.. But then what? There would have to be some reason to venture there, just like now there is no reason to travel to the sylphlands or sapsa spawning grounds outside of completing some objective.

There are certainly opportunities for reason, next level of zodiac quest, new dungeon/coil area, additional ranks of the GC hunt log, or side quests in general I suppose (I don't find side quests particularly exciting, personally)

first, let's hope the expansion has some. it's really sad that there's nothing like this.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

Just curious as to what would be the significance.. So they are too powerful for one person, they could be like a lv 50 dungeon boss were you need 4 people at least.. But then what? There would have to be some reason to venture there, just like now there is no reason to travel to the sylphlands or sapsa spawning grounds outside of completing some objective.

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if they existed, here are some things i would do with them.

put Unspoiled Nodes there for Gatherers with unique fish/items.
put Unhidden Map locations only in there.
put S Rank spawn conditions inside them.
put unique FATE spawn NPCs inside them.
put NPCs there that sell unique items (minions, furniture mats, seeds, etc).
Magic Pot for the Wind-Up Sun, put one of those guys in there.

give people reasons to use the Party Finder or group up with their FC in the open world.

We have, but A and S rank Monster die way too fast, it does not become dangerous at all :rolleyes:
I miss 1.xx days and i mean the early stages where the "path" was not save because of roaming NMs

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Originally Posted by Millerna

Actually, it would annoy everyone except the few people wanting dangerous zones.. And I'm saying that as a person who doesn't mind dangerous zones at all..

One of the best zones in an MMO is, in my opinion, still Kithicor Forest in Everquest. During daytime it was all friendly and low level, but during night time you'd better get out fast, because all the high level, and very deadly undead started showing up.

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They tryed that in 1.xx with Zombies at night, but somehow they forgotten about Day/Night shift in 2.xx even so in 1.xx Zombies were not as dangerous as it sounds like...
Would be a good idea to implement.

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Originally Posted by Millerna

Actually, it would annoy everyone except the few people wanting dangerous zones.. And I'm saying that as a person who doesn't mind dangerous zones at all..

One of the best zones in an MMO is, in my opinion, still Kithicor Forest in Everquest. During daytime it was all friendly and low level, but during night time you'd better get out fast, because all the high level, and very deadly undead started showing up.

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omg! That would be an awesome zone! XD

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

We have, but A and S rank Monster die way too fast, it does not become dangerous at all :rolleyes:
I miss 1.xx days and i mean the early stages where the "path" was not save because of roaming NMs

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it shouldn't be about NMs. there should be extensions to Natalan, Zahar'ak, Sapsa, Castrum Occidens,etc where the mobs are Lv 50 and hit like Second Coil trash mobs.

you could even go there just to level chocobos and get like 5k XP a kill or spiritbind i90 gear.

The thing with Kithicor Forest in EQ, was that it didn't contain anything special, there was no loot to get there, or at least, nothing really worth getting. But you HAD to go through Kithicor to get to certain other zones. Of course, most people travelled by day, but since a day/night cycle lasted quite a while, there were times when you entered just before it turned night, and rather than wait for the next day, you'd take a gamble and hope you'd make it through alive.