New SB limitations - facts

Lol, i can't help but laugh when he/she realizes they're wrong

since i am stuck in atma book hell i haven't done a single DF due to the specific dungeons required (and i am sure i'm not the only one). It sucks to see all those rewards go to waste and this is driving out even more since it seems like a lot more people will be choosing specific places to go for certain level gear/materia. So this coupled with less 50+ because of the books dungeons...

On the other hand i would really like to see the other side of these results when you are in the right dungeon(maybe % per run) since im about to be finished with these books and will need materia. And also how the numbers on converting i70+ and the chances to yeild IV materia.

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Originally Posted by lololink

It's written ilvl required to access, not ilvl of the dungeon, the ilvl of the dungeon is the ilvl of the mobs inside and is usually the same as the loots.

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So, you're saying that SE has made a change so that if you equip all gear at the minimum iLvl for a dungeon, you will be unable to SB anything? This gets worse and worse.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

Just tried a Brayflox HM (i55 dungeon) with iLvl 49, 45, 46 and 47 accessories equipped.

SB gain - zero. Even the i49 items. The range seems to be absurdly narrow for the effect of the new changes.

This will likely mean fewer people doing those DF roulettes.

Any other observations to report?

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I'm pretty sure the "level" of the dungeon is determined by the gear it drops not the minimum ilvl to get in.
So in the case with Brayflox HM, its actually an i70 dungeon so its obvious why you got nothing.
Try doing Wanderer's Palace, that's the actual i55 dungeon now.

With that in mind the new Expert roulette dungeons are i80
Crystal tower is i80
Syrcus tower is i100
Wanderer Palace/Amdapor are i55
Pharos/Hauke HM i60
Original Coil i90
2nd coil i110

hope that clears it up :P

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Anybody tested SB against open world mobs? It's starting to sound like SE's calculations were off...

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This is what I want to know. Only thing I ever had to go into dungeons to SB was i70 and turn 4 works pretty damn well for that (although might not anymore). As I stated in another thread, the patch notes imply to me that SBing in urth's will only work for 45-50 items which is dumb.

I think I may understand what people are thinking here.

Yes, the required item level to enter for it is 55 but I think what Ultimatecailber/Ispano means that the dungoen stats of the enemies are more suited for a iLV70 geared party or either that you can get iLV70 gear from it. But I think SE edited to suit iLV55 people. Didn't they?

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

I'm pretty sure the "level" of the dungeon is determined by the gear it drops not the minimum ilvl to get in.

With that in mind the new Expert roulette dungeons are i80
Crystal tower is i80
Syrcus tower is i100
Wanderer Palace/Amdapor are i55
Pharos/Hauke HM i60
Original Coil i90
2nd coil i110

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Given the above, I just realized:

Do we even have an "i70" Dungeon? (for i70 Accessory Spiritbonding.)

Because if SE's calculations are that stringent, NONE of the Dungeons would allow you to Spiritbond i70 Gear.

I hope someone can test this soon

@ Kiara - Halatali (Hard) drops DL gear which is ilvl 70.

Just found out why you SB is 0%

Check the patch note here,

"In order to address the issue of players undertaking a duty and then equipping gear lower than the required item level for the purpose of spirit bonding, the following adjustments have been made:
The rate at which gear gains spiritbond will now be reduced when gear is not the appropriate level for a given duty or open-world encounter. Furthermore, if the item level of gear is too high or too low, it will no longer gain spiritbond.

Example:
　Rubelite Ring (item level 49)

The ring will gain spiritbond at a reduced rate in duties such as the Labyrinth of the Ancients and Pharos Sirius, but will gain spiritbond at an increased rate in duties such as Castrum Meridianum and Wanderer's Palace.

Following the above changes to spiritbond gain, the probability of converting gear item level 70 or above into grade IV materia will now vary depending on the item level of the gear converted."

Welp guess I'll start running i50 dungeons in full left and right side crafted SB gear. =_= I used to run them in left side only SB gear but i need to make up for this new change forced upon us so I shall be more efficient and SB both sides now in MSQ dungeons.