Primal mounts and their effect on player health/sanity.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

The RNG isn't good or bad, it's random.

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A 1% RNG for 1 item for 8 player after a 10 mn fight and a 80% chance for 1 item for 1 player that can be done anytime is not the same, both are random but one makes an item almost unique and the other very common.

The point is, there can be RNG for an item and you can get it if you are working to get it ( Atmas are a good exemple, hard but you will get them eventually ), but mounts and mirrors are too low to be farmed while keeping your mental health and to be something you can actually farm for and still have a life outside of Eorzea.

I've downed all of the em primals multiple times without seeing a single pony drop. My friend on the other hand has seen many ponies. RNG is RNG. In theory I could never see a mount even if I grind primals all day every day for the rest of the games life...but I've accepted that.

I use my bomb mount from the dailies because it's awesome. Who needs ponies?! NOT ME! (runs to the corner and cries)

Primal mounts? Lol
Atm i rather get the primal item drop ( i.e inferno horn etc )
For the new crafted primal weps.
They sell for millions on my server and barely anyone has irit/ titan items due to ppl only doing hunts.
If i had enough gil i'd buy a kingly whisker for 3 mill gil just so i could make the mog ex wep and have musical notes swirl around me.

Considering that many upper-class peeps are moving on to farm Extreme Modes now, I suspect this is Square Enix's way of ensuring a good cycle of players still running the older modes, especially to benefit new players who need to clear them for their relics. Personally, I've wanted the Nightmare mount since forever. I saw it only once, during my first few wins. It was the same for the other mounts. I got a feeling that the drop percentarge of these mounts is high when you're starting to farm it. It acts as the 'hook' to get players invested in the fights, all of them thinking they will see it again. I haven't seen that mount drop since my 2nd or 3rd win.

I wish there was a Luck materia, to be honest. Luck materia exists in the other FF games. Why not here? It would act as the materia that increases a chance of a rare item. It would at least make grinding these older modes worth it, creating an incentive for veteran gamers to return to farming hard modes and helping new players running for their relics.

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Originally Posted by radius0

Considering that many upper-class peeps are moving on to farm Extreme Modes now, I suspect this is Square Enix's way of ensuring a good cycle of players still running the older modes, especially to benefit new players who need to clear them for their relics.

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The mounts only drop from Extremes.

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Originally Posted by ForteXX

The mounts only drop from Extremes.

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LOL, my bad. You're right! It's been so long since I touched Titan, Garuda, and Ifrit that for some reason I thought they were Hard Modes drops. :p But yes, you're correct.

Hm. This realization kinda undoes the theory I proposed in my previous post (about the cycling between new and vet players). To be honest, farming Extreme Primal Modes is obsolete when you can now upgrade weapons and items with less hassle due to the hunts. Or farm Leviathan Ex and Ramuh Ex for both weapons and mounts. I would think the mounts in the Extreme Primal fights would increase in percentage a bit, to at least encourage vet players to continue primal extreme fights. Meh. :/ The only reason I would return to Garuda Extreme is for that mount. And right now, it's more hassle than it's worth, especially since i'm already farming Ramuh for HIS mount lol.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

I think Jynx's point is more the fact when people tend to complain about a grind of any kind it's usually because they want it then and there. So while that isn't the case for everyone, it's become pretty standard to accept it's just people wanting access to their rewards sooner rather than later.

The RNG isn't good or bad, it's random.

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I think the OP made it clear they didnt want it handed out instantly, so not right away- but that RNG is -bad-. And I'd jump right into that wagon. RNG isnt just bad, RNG is terrible. Given the % you can know about how many runs on average it would take to obtain an item, knowing that you can clearly design a system that doesn't rely on if the sun, moon, and cats are in alignment for you that time or every time afterwards. If the average attempt is 20, then you shouldnt be as a player at 1000- with RNG that is entirely possible and -wrong-. This is a game, RNGbs shouldn't be a system in the game.


Imo >.>, I know some people like the pain of knowing they may never ever be able to obtain something just because of luck and no other reason- to them.. I hope we are playing different games.

Sadly, as was posted in another thread, the ARR developers use a "true RNG" algorithm to determine what loot drops.

Of all the times that I've seen Scylla's Coat of Casting, it has dropped once... and I didn't win the roll. (I rolled a freaking 4.) Sure, there's better chest pieces out there, but if I want to be able to do second coil (after I've unlocked it, of course) then I need something better than what I have now. I refuse to get the Evenstar Coat because I hate the "tail condom".

I wish the drop rate was higher because I want to collect the pony mounts but because its around 1% I don't even bother.

I really hope there is a Luck materia in this game in the future. I know how much it sucks to have terrible luck in this game. It took me 4 months to finally get the caster robe from Coil Turn 2. Meanwhile, a few people from my FC got it in their first win. It's the same with the mounts. There are like three people in my Ramuh farm group that got Nightmare. And they got them early in their Garuda farm groups. :/ Meh. At least with a Luck materia, it would increase the chances, however slightly, of balancing things a bit.